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Solaris         
         But if we change Premise 1 to “Whatever begins to exist has one or more causes of its existence,” then the Kalam fails
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Hillary         
         The sunlight completes the causal set of conditions for the acorn to grow - it is one and this in the Kalam cosmological argument is Allah/YHWH. — Agent Smith
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         brother Agent — Hillary
Hillary         
         You've deliberately lowered your IQ to participate in TPF haven't you? :snicker: — Agent Smith
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