Why does the universe have to be caused? Not rhetorical. We know there is a universe, so why does it have to have a cause. — Jackson
because self-causation is unreal. — SpaceDweller
Not correct. A finite past with initial conditions entails existing at all times.existing at all times = eternal = infinite
correct?
if not what do you mean? — SpaceDweller
A finite past with initial conditions entails existing at all times. — Relativist
If the universe was not caused then it is not self--caused. — Jackson
Not correct. A finite past with initial conditions entails existing at all times. — Relativist
If the universe is not caused nor self-caused then what is it? eternal? — SpaceDweller
Which is absurd and here is why: — SpaceDweller
Can you tell me? Not watching the video. — Jackson
If the universe did not have a beginning, then the number of past events in the history of the universe is infinite. But that’s a problem because the existence of an actually infinite number of past events leads to absurdity. It’s metaphysically impossible.
If the universe did not have a beginning, then the number of past events in the history of the universe is infinite. But that’s a problem because the existence of an actually infinite number of past events leads to absurdity. It’s metaphysically impossible.
3. therefore there is no space for any further events — SpaceDweller
how do you add to infinity please?
or how do you add an event to infinite amount of events? — SpaceDweller
I think of time as indeterminate here. Not "infinite" but "indeterminate." — Jackson
What do you mean by time is "intermediate", we are talking about number of past events.
how many past events (of the universe) are there? — SpaceDweller
Events don't have to be quantified by an ordering system. — Jackson
So I never would say infinity exists — Jackson
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