infinity indeed does not exist - it's unreal, and so is the idea of infinite universe. — SpaceDweller
Infinite time and space can have a beginning on one side. — Hillary
saying that there is no beginning is logically impossible. — SpaceDweller
Yes, indeed, but this would imply that universe has a beginning but no end, which is logically possible — SpaceDweller
Therefore we agree universe has a cause, that is a beginning? — SpaceDweller
infinity indeed does not exist - it's unreal, and so is the idea of infinite universe. — SpaceDweller
Why is that logically impossible? — Hillary
Not going to. Fare thee well. — Jackson
Universe without a beginning means a universe with infinite past events, which means there is no space for new event to add up to infinite number of events. — SpaceDweller
That's the question. A 5D quantum vacuum can be thermodynamical timeless and infinite in extent. — Hillary
But what about a universe with a beginning and no end? — Hillary
You disappointed me as a philosopher. :sad: — SpaceDweller
sorry but I'm layman for these things. — SpaceDweller
How is watching a video doing philosophy? I thought it was about presenting an argument? — Jackson
A "finite past" means it's caused at some finite point, you're contradicting — SpaceDweller
1. Existing at all times means it never DIDN'T exist — Relativist
Two independent problems with that:
1. Existing at all times means it never DIDN'T exist, so how do you infer it was caused? Seems a nonsequitur.
2.By definition, nothing existed prior to it, therefore no prior causes are possible. — Relativist
Which raises the question, what caused the acausality lying beneath all phenomena? — Hillary
All further temporary forms, then, are but arrangements of the eternal something, as they would have to be, again such as 'particles' are directly the quanta of fields, not some new substance. — PoeticUniverse
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