Very nice! Need I say more. — Merkwurdichliebe
I have no idea what we are debating. Remind me. — Tom Storm
Dunno why, but after reading a few of your words you seem to be one of the more enlightened persons here. One gets to know them... "Jawohl mein Führer!" :lol: — Hillary
. I think wayfarer was involved with Tom storm concerning idealism equating to nihilism — Merkwurdichliebe
Nihilism requires its subordinate to either create himself by his own willpower or perish. Hence Nietzsche's emphasis on the will to power. — Merkwurdichliebe
I can't think of a good joke — Merkwurdichliebe
Nothing! — Hillary
What's nihilism's selling point? Is it just the bitter truth or does it give a kick that makes people addicted to it? — Agent Smith
But idealism vs. nihilism... :lol: — Hillary
Most interesting! — Ms. Marple
What's nihilism's selling point? Is it just the bitter truth or does it give a kick that makes people addicted to it? — Agent Smith
If you're rich enough, you can make people do things for you...for a fee of course. — Agent Smith
could it not the case that people seek and grab hold of belief systems like drowning people cling onto driftwood in the ocean? — Tom Storm
Ask me if you want an explanation of perspectivism — Merkwurdichliebe
could it not the case that people seek and grab hold of belief systems like drowning people cling onto driftwood in the ocean — Tom Storm
I'm only rich in cheesy sarcasm — Merkwurdichliebe
I see what you mean. In fact, everyone has a philosophy about life and its various manifestations and aspects, even if one doesn't realize it or does not think about it explicitly. And everyone believes in something basic, even if this is not God. I use to say that non-religious scientists have science as their religion and in fact, they are more fanatic about it than leymen about their religion! :smile:Secularism may claim to be untied from religion, but I still find it hard to see how anything can be free from religious influence. To me, it would be like saying some movement is "free" from philosophical or philosophical consideration — Paulm12
There is ‘clinging to belief’ on the one hand, and there is ‘letting go, and letting God’ on the other. — Wayfarer
Precisely because science can't offer any reason for existence the driftwood is necessary to stay alive. — Hillary
Not significant enough.. — Possibility
I know you keep raising science but as an atheist I have limited interest in science. I don't look to it for anything except as a tool for solving certain types of problems. I am one of those vexed people who find science and maths dull. — Tom Storm
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