So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. — Genesis 1:27
they very often give them human characteristics — TiredThinker
For me, human portrayals of ancient gods are strong evidence that humans created gods and gods never existed. — universeness
If there is no God, it would be necessary to invent Him. — Voltaire
If God really existed, it would be necessary to abolish Him. — Mikhail Bakunin
We could invent God (I mean for real) but that seems to be irreversible (omnipotence & omniscience) — Agent Smith
What do you mean by 'for real?' If you really do mean 'for real,' then the obvious question is how do we do that? — universeness
The future is a world of ∞∞ possibilities. God maybe one of 'em. You never know what tomorrow will bring. Isn't that what's so exciting about times yet to come? — Agent Smith
New Theology regards the Gods of planet Earth as personifications of the one true God: the ultimate ground of existence, the foundation of reality — Art48
Sounds to me that you are suggesting that some merging of individual consciousnesses in the very distant future is not something you completely reject, An emerging panpsychism? — universeness
When theist people believe in a God or Gods responsible for everything in existence they very often give them human characteristics for the obvious reason that what else could one imagine beings of consciousness to be like.
But for those that either believe strictly in science or a more cosmic force like karma or some type of balance don't they also add human virtue when thinking of that scenario? At least I assume most aren't content with chaos. — TiredThinker
Both to think up possibilities and eliminating them requires talent and expertise. I'm but a beginner in these methods and so cum grano salis with regard to what I have to say. Panpsychism is possible if only there's an image of the exterior (the world at large) and the interior (the self). I recall looking at a rock and contemplating consciousness. A rock doesn't possess eyes nor is it smooth enough to act as a mirror. In what sense, how, can it be conscious (of anything) then? Perhaps there are other ways via which it can construct an image of the world and itself. Limited as we are to our 5 senses, we can't conceive of other means of creating an image of the world or the self, but it isn't beyond the realm of possibility that a rock could, in principle. hold and image of the world and of itself, we just don't know how that's done. — Agent Smith
So it is, the world or the self (two things we can become conscious of) can induce, chemistry-wise, a one-to-one corresponding chemical reaction that is then understood as awareness/consciousness. I call this an image. Perhaps you have in your possession a better concept and the right word to go with it. This is best exemplified by the eyes - the rods and cones undergo what's known as photochemical reactions, very much like in old camera films, and the end result of that is an image that forms on our retinas, the totality of which is then relayed to our visual cortex and that's vision in a nutshell.
No such system ("variation in its structural arrangement") is apparent in a stone, but we have to be careful here: maybe this is a lacuna in our knowledge rather than a fact about stones.
Furthermore, there's this idea of pure awareness, the raw sense data itself sans the processing (thinking). This is old news in the philosophy of mind, perhaps more well-known and included in meditative practices in the orient. An ordinary camera is the best inanimate object that typifies this concept. An image forms inside the camera after light traverses ite lenses. That's pure awareness and does involve "variation in its strutctural arrangement", there's nothing in a camera that examines the image formed inside it. In my book, that's proto-consciousness, one step away from true human-level consciousness and we've already made progress in that department with robots and AI (image processing). Is that rudimentary, simple consciousness? I dunno. — Agent Smith
non-conceptual awareness — Possibility
But for those that either believe strictly in science or a more cosmic force like karma or some type of balance don't they also add human virtue when thinking of that scenario? — TiredThinker
non-conceptual awareness
— Possibility
Would you say that's phenomenology in a loose sense? I heard phenomenology is about dumping all conceptual schema that exist and we employ to make sense of the world and focusing our attention on phenomena (appearances). — Agent Smith
Kinda sorta makes sense; after all noumena will forever remain beyond, on the other side of, our event horizon. — Agent Smith
Consciousness is a complex awareness in which an integrated life event creates a variation in its structural arrangement (of interacting molecular change) in relation to an ‘other’ event with which it interacts - ie. the world. Each variation relates to the next to gradually build and rebuild a conceptual structure of the world as a predictive reference for the brain, in much the same way as DNA builds an updated blueprint for the organism. This integrated structure of predictions about the world is then able to create an ‘image’ of the world or the self as it develops self-consciousness - creating potential or simulated variations to test how such an arrangement might affect the organism’s ongoing structural arrangements of molecular change. — Possibility
The future is a world of ∞∞ possibilities. God maybe one of 'em. You never know what tomorrow will bring. Isn't that what's so exciting about times yet to come? — Agent Smith
proto-consciousness — Agent Smith
mirror — Agent Smith
Consciousness is a complex awareness in which an integrated life event creates a variation in its structural arrangement (of interacting molecular change) in relation to an ‘other’ event with which it interacts - ie. the world. Each variation relates to the next to gradually build and rebuild a conceptual structure of the world as a predictive reference for the brain, in much the same way as DNA builds an updated blueprint for the organism. This integrated structure of predictions about the world is then able to create an ‘image’ of the world or the self as it develops self-consciousness - creating potential or simulated variations to test how such an arrangement might affect the organism’s ongoing structural arrangements of molecular change. — Possibility
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