I have got the impression over the years that the main objections against the supernatural are based on plausibility. — Andrew4Handel
The supernatural, by definition, is something that defies the natural order of things. — I like sushi
I’ve extended that indefinitely as I regard you as a troll and/or manic. — I like sushi
But now I think that lots of human technology like the internet and mobile/cell phones is implausible as well as aspects of reality like the basic existence of something, infinity and such like. — Andrew4Handel
I have got the impression over the years that the main objections against the supernatural are based on plausibility. — Andrew4Handel
I assume that the reader is familiar with the idea of extrasensory perception, and the meaning of the four items of it, viz., telepathy, clairvoyance, precognition and psychokinesis. These disturbing phenomena seem to deny all our usual scientific ideas. How we should like to discredit them! Unfortunately the statistical evidence, at least for telepathy, is overwhelming. — Turing, 1950
What do you mean by Supernatural? I would think that means actions of God. — Jackson
Lack of objective evidence - non anecdotal - I would say. But it's pleasant to think of ectoplasm slowly oozing from the aether. — jgill
In what sense are they supernatural, though? If they're not, then how do they support your point? — Ciceronianus
I don't think that as has been said absence of evidence is evidence of absence. — Andrew4Handel
My argument is that the main objection against The Supernatural has been implausibility but that modern technology and modern scientific discoveries make previously implausible things look as plausible as the new world picture. Things can go through walls which are apparently mainly made up of empty space. — Andrew4Handel
-No the main objection is and always should be "Possibility". If we are unable to demonstrate objectively the possibility of the supernatural then its non sensible to argue about its plausibility.I have got the impression over the years that the main objections against the supernatural are based on plausibility. — Andrew4Handel
Unfortunately the statistical evidence, at least for telepathy, is
overwhelming. — Turing, 1950
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I’ve extended that indefinitely as I regard you as a troll and/or manic.
You will not be getting any responses from me in the immediate future (months+). — I like sushi
I will agree with your position. The Supernatural is nothing more than a made up bin where we human toss everything we currently don't understand. Every-time we had to go back and take something out out from that bin..that was because the explanation was always Natural.Maybe all supernatural ideas are just natural items yet to be unveiled. — I like sushi
No the main objection is and always should be "Possibility" — Nickolasgaspar
I suspect that there's an element of genuine magic involved in much of the technology that exploits the mysterious properties of quantum physics, such as non-locality (which is nowadays used for secure communications technologies) and for quantum computers. — Wayfarer
I think it grounds it. For me 'Implausible' hangs in the air without any precision. — Tom Storm
I think these technological innovations should also shape new philosophical directions. — Andrew4Handel
This is why I disagree with the definition of faith as "believe in spite of the evidence", because that definition only speaks to a certain conception of what constitutes evidence; a conception which has its own unevidenced presuppositions underpinning it. — Janus
Would you say that anyone finds anything implausible without believing they have reason to think so? And does not believing you have a reason to think that something is likely to be the case amount to believing that you have some evidence to think that, even if the "evidence" is nothing more than a gut feeling? This is why I disagree with the definition of faith as "believe in spite of the evidence", because that definition only speaks to a certain conception of what constitutes evidence; a conception which has its own uneividnced presuppositions underpinning it. — Janus
We haven't escaped the supernatural through science and philosophising but just deepened the mysteries. — Andrew4Handel
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