Never understand the pull of Nietszche — Wayfarer
My view is that if mankind is unable to acknowledge their difference from and separation from nature — Wayfarer
wholly and solely by the will to power. — Wayfarer
A bit of an exaggeration. In the opening pages of Zarathustra - to my view, Nietzsche's purest moment of visionary insight - the Superman is set out as evolution's aim: from worm to ape to man to Superman. — ZzzoneiroCosm
Yes, and also the "will to power" is grossly misunderstood by those who have never actually studied Nietzsche. It does not signify power over others, but power over the self, in order to reach one's fullest potential. I think it would be less misleadingly termed "the will to empowerment". — Janus
Indeed; spouting delusive mistruths....like any prophet... — ZzzoneiroCosm
So Nietzsche doesn't precisely mean Goodall's apes. — ZzzoneiroCosm
Nietzsche's analogy ought no longer hold sway given our better understanding of the humanity of the great apes. — Banno
Philosophy for adolescents. — Banno
It's a question of evolution: from ape to man to Superman.
(... And, of course, from Superman to Superduperman - a vision eternally projectable into the future.)
I've heard folks say that a figure like Napoleon ought to be considered, as it were, Supermanly. The passage above indicates an altogether different vision. As an ape can never be a man, a man can never be a Superman. — ZzzoneiroCosm
Will to Power is Nietzsche's best work. — Jackson
isn't it generally argued that it is precisely this separation and our failure to recognize our unity with nature that has resulted in us screwing the environment as just some 'other' to be dominated and exploited? — Tom Storm
It does not signify power over others, but power over the self, in order to reach one's fullest potential. — Janus
I agree; it certainly seems that way. I can't think of anyone I've ever spoken to, who has made the effort to read and understand him who thinks he is of no consequence, evil, or whatever. And having taken several University courses on Nietzsche's philosophy, courses with a lot of discussion, I've met and discussed his ideas with quite a few. — Janus
evil — Janus
The weak and the botched shall perish: first principle of our charity. And one should help them to it.
What is more harmful than any vice?—Practical sympathy for the botched and the weak— — Nietzsche - The Antichrist
Where does Nietzsche talk about spirituality? — Jackson
So what's the diff? — Wayfarer
It would take a truckload of charity not to call the above an evil thing to say, an evil teaching. — ZzzoneiroCosm
"Caesar with the soul of Christ." — Jackson
Nietzsche threw his arms around the horse's neck, tears streaming from his eyes, and then collapsed onto the ground." — Janus
would be surprised if anything positive said about Nietzsche would be worthwhile to you; mired in your self-imposed ignorance of his work as you seem to be. — Janus
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