It would take a truckload of charity not to call the above an evil thing to say, an evil teaching. — ZzzoneiroCosm
I don't see Neitzche as evil or simplistic. I see his criticisms of traditional ethics as presenting significant challenges to it and I think he points out the consequences of the declaration of God's death. — Hanover
Share with me that quote. The subjective nature of truth seems critical to Christianity, so it would make sense that he sees its destruction imminent. — Hanover
Opening of Will to Power talks about the coming of European nihilism. — Jackson
Apes are no longer merely objects for amusement, except amongst the ill-informed or childish. — Banno
Share with me that quote. — Hanover
It's a hyperbolic criticism to an exaggerated interpretation of the virtue of meekness within Christianity. — Hanover
Zarathustra is a condolence for inadequate juveniles, something to be transcended as one reaches towards adulthood. — Banno
If you'd ever had a single moment of self-illumination you might have some idea what you're talking about. — ZzzoneiroCosm
Well, yes, indeed, that is what I have been arguing: we grew out of it. If it is the "iconic passage from Zarathustra", so much the worse for Nietzsche's fatuous fatidic alter-ego. — Banno
You chose a particularly poor quote for your OP. That's down to you, not I. — Banno
It does not signify power over others, but power over the self, in order to reach one's fullest potential. I think it would be less misleadingly termed "the will to empowerment". — Janus
Apes are no longer merely objects for amusement, except amongst the ill-informed or childish. — Banno
I take Neitzche's superman to be a rationally advanced person who rejects the slave morality of Christianity and derives his morality from this world — Hanover
I have — Banno
I do — Banno
What kind of 'empowerment' could he envisage, other than political power, the domination of the strong over the weak? The religious cultures that he abjurs depict fulfillment in terms of divine union or transcending the self, but there's nothing that can be mapped against that in Nietszche's philosophy as there's nothing beyond the ego. Is there? — Wayfarer
The symbols Nietzsche used are not suited to our time, to be sure, but the underlying idea is relevant. — Janus
I think he felt like the botched and the weak stood in the way of humankind's evolution. And literally felt it would benefit humankind to do them in.
Monstrous. — ZzzoneiroCosm
bungled and the botched — Banno
He's a complicated man, certainly not pure evil, but has said things I'm comfortable with calling evil.
The weak and the botched shall perish: first principle of our charity. And one should help them to it.
What is more harmful than any vice?—Practical sympathy for the botched and the weak—
— Nietzsche - The Antichrist
It would take a truckload of charity not to call the above an evil thing to say, an evil teaching. — ZzzoneiroCosm
I think it’s monstrous to want the weak and botched to thrive at the expense of everyone else. — Xtrix
If you read this as “kill all the disabled people” or something— — Xtrix
If you had read what I wrote... — ZzzoneiroCosm
As to who we should understand the botched and weak to be... If it's some set of human beings - no matter how numerically insignificant a set - then this is an evil teaching. — ZzzoneiroCosm
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