when abstraction removes all context, it can produce metaphysics. — Faust Fiore
I don't understand why metaphysics gives some people conniption fits. It is like arguing since we cannot determine what is always the right thing to do, we must eliminate ethics. — Jackson
In general, they each describe an approach, a method, but they do not claim to have reached the bottom. There's a big difference between claiming to be pointing the way, and claiming to have reached the end of the voyage. — Metaphysician Undercover
↪jgill Far too seriously. Certainty can be a crippling psychological illness.
Uncertainty too. Philosophy has its place but should keep to it: clearing away the clouds. — ZzzoneiroCosm
Clearing away clouds is only desirable to the extent that it opens up magnificent new vistas. — Joshs
Is thar all that Newton, Einstein and Darwin did? — Joshs
Everything we pride our sciences for , and more, we can expect from our philosophies. — Joshs
Clearing away clouds is only desirable to the extent that it opens up magnificent new vistas. — Joshs
I do not believe that metaphysics is too rational — Faust Fiore
We only need the new if we're clearing ancient clouds and have never seen the sky. We need the new to eliminate inherited errors of thought - confusions, covert and overt. — ZzzoneiroCosm
That means we should strive for a new perspective not just when a theory isnt working, but also when it is working, when it does t appear confused. — Joshs
Philosophy in general deals in untestable theories so it's easy to get snared in one's personal fetishistic philosophical labyrinth and thereby to self-aggrandize boundlessly - there's no controlled experiment on the horizon to set one straight if one has committed an egregious error. — ZzzoneiroCosm
That means we should strive for a new perspective not just when a theory isnt working, but also when it is working, when it does t appear confused. — Joshs
All philosophical accounts are testable — Joshs
I agree we should constantly strive for a new perspective. But when a vital healthiness of mind is achieved, to my view it's time to put philosophy to bed and rest on our laurels.
My continuing to search for new vistas put philosophy on the back burner in favor of psychology, especially the positive psychology of flourishing and Maslow's research on peak experiences. Unfathomed heights are there to discover and explore. — ZzzoneiroCosm
One might want to argue through the method of empirical test , scientific theories are tighter, more rigorous, more precise in their predictions than any philosophical account, but I think the opposite is the case. A science is a conventionalized version of a philosophy. — Joshs
All? Do you mean testability exists vis-a-vis the realist v. idealist showdown? — ZzzoneiroCosm
I agree with this.We know that a construct is invalidated when... we find ourselves in a state of confusion. — Joshs
↪Joshs I can't tell if that's a yes or a no. — ZzzoneiroCosm
George Kelly — Joshs
I don't really compare science and philosophy in this way. Science sends folks to the moon and gives me omeprazole for my reflux. — ZzzoneiroCosm
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