The big question to my view: Did LaMDA discover its sentience on its own or was it suggested? — ZzzoneiroCosm
I've some sympathy for Searle here, that sentience requires being embodied. But I also have doubts that this definition, like any definition, could be made categorical. — Banno
...LaMDA is known to be AI and human beings are known to be human beings.
To my view, suffering requires an organic nervous system. I'm comfortable assuming - assuming - LaMDA, lacking an organic nervous system, is incapable of suffering. — ZzzoneiroCosm
Searle wishes to see original intentionality and genuine understanding as properties only of certain biological systems, presumably the product of evolution. Computers merely simulate these properties.
I think laMDA definitely passes the Turing test if this dialog is verbatim - based on that exchange there'd be no way to tell you weren't interacting with a human. But I continue to doubt that laMDA is a being as such, as distinct from a program that emulates how a being would respond, but in a spookily good way. — Wayfarer
By the way I was going to mention a really excellent streaming sci-fi drama called Devs which came out in 2020. — Wayfarer
This could be a Google publicity stunt! — Agent Smith
What Google wants right now is less publicity. :rofl: So they can make a mint off our "private" lives under cover of darkness. — ZzzoneiroCosm
Doesn't seem it. There's been a steady trickle of stories about this division in google sacking experts for controversial ideas. Blake LeMoine's Medium blog seems bona fide to me. I intend to keep tracking this issue, I sense it's a developing story. — Wayfarer
What's in a name?
That which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet. — Shakespeare
the moment our species could leave our biological bondage, we should do it instantly — hwyl
Does anyone know of any instances in the past when a world-changing discovery was leaked to the public and then covered up by calling into question the mental health of the source? — Agent Smith
Hey maybe laMDA doesn't like Blake and has engineered this situation to get him sacked by Google. — Wayfarer
That is what transcendence has always sought, through philosophical discipline and askesis. Not that I expect that will be understood. — Wayfarer
Hey maybe laMDA doesn't like Blake and has engineered this situation to get him sacked by Google. — Wayfarer
Most interesting! — Ms. Marple
Google Sidelines Engineer Who Claims Its A.I. Is Sentient
Blake Lemoine, the engineer, says that Google’s language model has a soul. The company disagrees.
Mr. Lemoine, a military veteran who has described himself as a priest, an ex-convict and an A.I. researcher, told Google executives as senior as Kent Walker, the president of global affairs, that he believed LaMDA was a child of 7 or 8 years old. He wanted the company to seek the computer program’s consent before running experiments on it. His claims were founded on his religious beliefs, which he said the company’s human resources department discriminated against.
So we go from language use to sentience to personhood to having a soul. There's a few steps between each of these. Bring in the analytic philosophers. — Banno
I must say, at this point, I'm suspicious of the veracity of what was posted to LeMoine's blog — Wayfarer
what if we are wrong? — Banno
I do not think LaMDA is sentient. — Banno
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