What are peoples thoughts on citing their sources in the context of debating truth and presenting experimental ideas without profit being the ultimate goal? It seems impossible to have a productive conversation while simultaneously pointing to the source of every original idea — MonfortS26
It seems impossible to have a productive conversation while simultaneously pointing to the source of every original idea — MonfortS26
I fully agree! :up:It seems impossible to have a productive conversation while simultaneously pointing to the source of every original idea — MonfortS26
But then, why do yourself bring up an idea from someone else? :chin:it was John Lennon that said there was no such thing as an original idea, or something along those lines — MonfortS26
I don't think that this is the point here. When you cite someone, you normally also include the source.If you quote someone then a source must be given — Jackson
I don't find it essential at all. In fact, rather ineffective. One may bring up an authority for debating purposes, but it is not OK to do that as a substitute of one's own position, ideas, etc. Citing someone is a bad if not a substitute for arguments. It shows that the person does not really undestand the issue at hand or he is not able to describe/explain and judge it.Authority is one of the essential criteria for a sound philosophy. — Merkwurdichliebe
"Essential", became now "a good idea" ...If the speaker himself has no authority (such as every member of TPF), then it is a very good idea to cite one who does — Merkwurdichliebe
One may bring up an authority for debating purposes, but it is not OK to do that as a substitute of one's own position, ideas, etc. — Alkis Piskas
"Essential", became now "a good idea" ... — Alkis Piskas
And, since when TPF members are authotities?? — Alkis Piskas
The Autobiography of God: Daniel 5:5 (Omar Khayyam edition)The moving finger wags, and having wagged, moves on
:roll:The moving finger wags, and having wagged, moves on
The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.
Nowhere. It was I who used this word, as a response to your "Authority is one of the essential criteria for a sound philosophy",Where did I write "substitute"? — Merkwurdichliebe
Well, this looks like a (known) method of avoiding to talk about the essence of what the other person says. — Alkis Piskas
The point of citing one's sources is primarily to mitigate/prevent the despicable act of plagiarism — Agent Smith
Yes. If you quote someone, you have to cite the source. Not sure why this is such a troubling idea for some. — Jackson
Laziness, pressed for time, forgetfulness, and a host of other benign reasons. Ideas also tend to recirculate in the population - multiple discoveries (re the Newton-Leibniz calculus controversy). — Agent Smith
Not about common ideas. Pretty straightforward. If you quote someone, cite the source. — Jackson
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Are you rolling your eyes or wagging your finger at me? — unenlightened
I think... it was John Lennon that said there was no such thing as an original idea, or something along those lines — MonfortS26
And before that, Moses said that, and before that, Kain said that. — god must be atheist
The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.
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