Other humans are very likely sentient, being very like us. — hypericin
Or both possibly insentient ... — 180 Proof
You know the Other is sentient.
And you're certain of it. — ZzzoneiroCosm
anyone who chooses to deploy solipsism to defend his position has ceased to do serious philosophy. — ZzzoneiroCosm
To my view our discussion has transitioned into the realm of the dishonest — ZzzoneiroCosm
Identical objects — hypericin
Objects which are 99.99999% identical are overwhelmingly likely to share their properties. — hypericin
we are similar in the ways we believe are causative and correlative of consciousness — hypericin
Personally, I believe memory logging of higher order Bayesian (or Bayesian-like) inferences is what causes consciousness. — Isaac
I thought you believed that such memory logging is consciousness. — bongo fury
Oh, you don't believe consciousness originates in the brain? You don't believe the behaviors I mentioned are correlative at all with consciousness?'We' do not believe that. You do. — Isaac
If your personal belief is that consciousness has something to do with the actual wetware, then obviously you're going to see similarity in wetware as significant. — Isaac
I suppose it would be more accurate to have said [...] cause consciousness. — Isaac
you don't believe consciousness originates in the brain? — hypericin
Other humans are very likely sentient, being very like us. — hypericin
this process has only been instantiated in human wetware, as far as we are certain. — hypericin
Why? — bongo fury
If I say 'a race' is lots of runners all starting simultaneously and aiming for the same line, then an answer to the question 'what causes a race?' might be "a load of runners, a finish line, and a starting pistol going off". Put those three things together, you'll have a race. — Isaac
Have you said what consciousness is? — bongo fury
I thought you believed that such memory logging is consciousness. — bongo fury
... Poor silly, Zzz — 180 Proof
You reminded me of that very thing not two posts back. — Isaac
such memory logging is consciousness. — bongo fury
But you retracted. — bongo fury
So, anyway. You do believe (that it is accurate enough to say) that
such memory logging is consciousness. — bongo fury
? — bongo fury
neuro-physiologists are unwitting dualists when they quite unnecessarily call a spade the cause or correlate of a spade. — bongo fury
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