So is there anything short of total revolution that will address the problem? I mean, what would a solution consist of? Do you think if the current order completely broke down and anarchy prevailed, it would make it easier for those suffering masses to pay their rent and get along? — Wayfarer
Abolishing capitalism would be good, but in lieu of that, get money of out politics, abolish the Electoral Collage, pack or abolish the Supreme Court, rewrite that stupid piece of shit document they call a constitution, bring back the corporate income tax rate of the 1940-1950s, massively limit speculation on housing, massive raise the capital gains tax, establish a decent fucking healthcare system, fund the ever living daylights out of public housing, gut to the point of death funding for the military and for cops, so and and so on — Streetlight
I have a few American friends who make statements like 'the civil war has never really ended' and 'the rule of 'survival of the fittest,' guides 'the American dream.' Do you agree with such statements? — universeness
Are you, like me, a socialist? — universeness
Not an argument I’d want to entertain. — Wayfarer
for various reasons stupid people have far too much influence in the US. — Wayfarer
Do you believe that the human race is capable of creating a social/political system that is benevolent to the vast majority of people it represents and can maintain and preserve the ecology it exists within? — universeness
It's just very tiring to have a rising tide of fascism and the response of liberals is 'we need a more robust set of committee hearings'.
Or, as it turns out, this elitist, bourgeois crap about 'stupid people', that Wayfarer just posted. — Streetlight
Abolishing capitalism would be good, ... — Streetlight
... get money of out politics, ... — Streetlight
... rewrite that stupid piece of shit document they call a constitution, ... — Streetlight
... establish a decent fucking healthcare system, ... — Streetlight
... fund the ever living daylights out of public housing, .... — Streetlight
... bring back the corporate income tax rate of the 1940-1950s, ... — Streetlight
... massively raise the capital gains tax, ... — Streetlight
... gut to the point of death funding for the military and for cops, ... — Streetlight
All the things that the democrats and republicans are united on opposing. — Streetlight
... so and and so on. — Streetlight
I don't even want to know what else you would add to this blueprint of wholescale destruction. — Tzeentch
I hope that democratic systems of government can aspire to that. I don't know what the alternatives are — Wayfarer
As regards the civil war - it's astonishing, and saddening, that it even occurred. America seems to have kind of streak of violence deeply embedded in it. — Wayfarer
I've sometimes wondered if the 'pursuit of happiness' has some share of responsibility for that as it's a very individualistic aim — Wayfarer
Taking away economic power from private individuals and putting it in the hands of government gets "money out of politcs" how? — Tzeentch
Do you agree that the concept of 'currency' is changing?
The total in your bank account is a number that goes down over the month then it gets replenished, if your circumstances allow for such. Paper/metal money is on the wane. — universeness
In what ways might this cause change as we move forward? — universeness
What do you think of efforts towards a UBI(Universal Basic Income)? — universeness
Are you content that your life is so influenced by the amount of money you have access to? — universeness
Can you not envisage a different/better/more benevolent system for humans to exist under? — universeness
It's utterly astonishing that as soon as less than 100% support for the Democrats is raised, the alternatives are assumed to be some kind of bloody revolution. I mean, I'm as up for a bloody revolution as the next man, but is that really the limit of these people's imagination? — Isaac
It's been 6 years since Trump was elected. If you still can't "make sense" of why the GOP backs him after 6 years - when 74 million people can - then you, specifically you, are stupider than every Trump voter in existence. — Streetlight
Filibuster. You need 60% not 51% to do anything at all. — schopenhauer1
What do you think of efforts towards a UBI(Universal Basic Income)?
— universeness
I think it's a Trojan horse. — Tzeentch
The things that matter in life can't be bought with money. As long as I have food on my plate and a roof above my head I'm as content as material wealth will make me. — Tzeentch
I could certainly try, but such visions of a better world must always be nuanced by an understanding of the flawed human nature. — Tzeentch
The Dems can get rid of the filibuster on a party line basis, but the senators from Arizona and West Virginia thought it more important that congress remain an impotent body. — Mr Bee
It's utterly astonishing that as soon as less than 100% support for the Democrats is raised, the alternatives are assumed to be some kind of bloody revolution. — Isaac
Well, You're here now! You might as well help try to improve things for others whilst recommending that life should fade away asap.It is being born at all, of course, which is the problem. — schopenhauer1
Indeed, Manchin is pretty much a Republican. That’s well known. Its West Virginia. Not sure what Sinemas deal is either but Arizona is not known as a bastion for liberal politics either. Mainly libertarian republicans. — schopenhauer1
It's not that the Democrats in power can't make sense of the reason why Trump came into power, it's that they don't like the implications of the answer. Better to think that they're not the problem and that they don't need to change then to go through the trouble of stirring up the status quo. — Mr Bee
Why is the GOP clinging so hard with so much nearly religious devotion to such an inept politician as Trump is beyond me. It doesn't make any sense. — ssu
Of course it doesn't really matter because the two parties are the same party with differing heraldry. — Streetlight
Democrats impeached Trump twice. — Jackson
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