The real thing is his lack of judgement and ignorance in this case.I myself am more inclined to believe that Trump was just his usual impulsive, irritable, vindictive, bloody-minded, incompetent self. — SophistiCat
Well, that was the way basically referring to, that's how the Russian did get him... recruited.Yeah; but, let us not be naive and assume the money came with no strings attached, from the Russian oligarchy. — Question
See The wild and confusing saga of the Trump adviser at the center of the Russia controversyPage took his controversial trip to Moscow, it alleged, to meet with Rosneft's CEO, Igor Sechin. There, Page was offered the brokerage of a 19% stake in Rosneft in exchange for the lifting of US sanctions on Russia, but was noncommittal, according to the dossier.
On December 7, Rosneft signed a deal to sell 19.5% of shares, or roughly $11 billion, to the multinational commodity trader Glencore Plc and Qatar's state-owned wealth fund. Qatar's sovereign wealth fund is Glencore's largest shareholder. Page was back in Moscow on December 8 to "meet with some of the top managers" of Rosneft, he told reporters at the time. He denied meeting with Sechin, Rosneft's CEO, during that trip, but said it would have been "a great honor" if he had.
The FBI reportedly used the dossier's raw intelligence about Page to bolster its case for the FISA order, according to CNN, indicating that the bureau had enough confidence in the validity of the document to corroborate it and present it in court.
"In my long experience in dealing with FISA processing, unconfirmed information about a potential target cannot (and has not been) included in the application," said John Rizzo, the former acting general counsel of the CIA.
"So, if the CNN report is accurate, then I have to believe that the FBI and Department of Justice concluded (and the Court agreed) that the info in the dossier about Page was reliable."
See Russian oil exec found dead after caught bribing Donald Trump to lift U.S. sanctionsAt least four U.S. intel assets in Russia have been arrested by Russian authorities, and at least one key U.S. intel asset has been found dead in the back of a car. But the identity of the dead man, and his business relationship with Donald Trump and his advisors, takes the scandal to a stunning new level.The man found dead is Oleg Erovinkin, the former KGB and FSB intelligence agent who secretly fed information about Donald Trump to MI6 agent Christopher Steele in what what has ultimately become popularly known as the “Russian pee pee” scandal due to the involvement of Trump and lewd acts with prostitutes. The Telegraph says he was found dead in the back of a car and that foul play is suspected. But what may be more alarming is what Erovinkin was doing for a living after he retired from the Russian FSB.
Erovinkin was the right hand man of former Russian deputy prime minister Igor Sechin, and he followed Sechin into the private sector. Sechin went on to become the head of Russian oil company Rosneft, where Erovinkin also became an exec. According to the MI6 report which was put together with Erovinkin’s help, Rosneft offered to sell a 19% share of itself to Carter Page, who was a top Donald Trump campaign advisor at the time. It was a sweetheart deal which was understood to be in exchange for Trump lifting any sanctions on Russia if he won the election and took office.
In any case, if James Comey's memo comes out - the one where he diarised Trump asking him directly to drop the investigation into Michael Flynn - then it's really hard to see how Trump could survive that, as it would amount to being caught red-handed in the obstruction of justice, and then lying about it. Makes Watergate seem like someone embezzling the tea money from a church fete — Wayfarer
I'm interested to see what a Trump resignation or impeachment could do for reform movements within both major parties and maybe even for a third party. Once the American people see first hand how nauseating a daily circus becomes, they're going to crave seriousness, consistency, and depth. — VagabondSpectre
Their either need to prove that trump demanded Comey end the investigation, or that Trump fired Comey because he would not end the investigation, as far as I understand it. (conflict of interest + obstruction of justice) — VagabondSpectre
Yep. Russia and Trump is real. Those Champagne bottles weren't opened in celebrating in Trump's win just for Trump winning, but for the brilliant work made for Russia. There simply is too much that would be just a coincidence. And Trump's irrational, erratic and above all, ignorant actions have shown that this guy would lack so much judgement that he would go with the help of a foreign country and it's intelligence services.So, you're on the side that thinks Trump and Russia are related somehow? — Question
What I find surprising is that these ties didn't come out during a vetting process of potential candidates for the office? — Question
Why do you find it surprising? — ssu
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