No one has to live. You don't like the planet, leave. Seriously. — Jackson
And if your position is that life isn't supposed to make you happy, then it begs the question why one feels the need to put more people into existence in the first place. — Tzeentch
Apart from approximately 50% of accidental unplanned births, you should also consider the possibility that we don't have much choice in reproducing. Nature has shaped our bodies and our minds to procreate, or we wouldn't even be here talking. Even when we think we have decided to procreate, it's most probably due to natural physical and psychological drives that make it happen anyway. — punos
You're "free" to choose your individual path, others are willing to go through the pain of evolution, ... — punos
Individuals don't go through evolution. In fact, they don't even have a stake in it!
Doing things for the sake of evolution is absurd.
No wonder then that when people do things on the basis of absurd motivations nothing good and indeed much suffering comes of it. — Tzeentch
Evolution is not something the individual has any influence over, nor is it something the individual will experience the fruits of in their lifetime. — Tzeentch
Expanding one's scope to some abstract thing one holds no influence over, has little understanding of and will never get to see the results of seems like a major cop-out. — Tzeentch
If one wants to expand their bubble beyond the self, something which I can only encourage, then I would suggest to focus on things one does have influence over, and will see the results of, not in the least part because one will get to take responsibility for their successes and failures. — Tzeentch
Welcome to the Philosophy Forum, by the way. — Tzeentch
This world clearly does not offer such a life to anyone. We all know this. — Bartricks
No we don't know this. At all. — dimosthenis9
Have you considered the fact that about half or 50% of pregnancies are accidental? No one is making any decision to have children in those cases. What should be done about that? — punos
provide an example of a person who is beyond dispute innocent, yet deserves to come to harm. — Bartricks
You're confusing legal innocence with the natural condition of humans. T — Wayfarer
Your argument really is more like, why should anyone be born in the first place, given that life often sucks. — Wayfarer
So people can't get past the word "deserve" because it sounds like something to do with retribution. — schopenhauer1
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