This brings to mind modern or conceptual art. People say “Anyone could do that.” I have a certain amount of sympathy for that position. — Clarky
"I can splash paint on a canvas," does not make you an artist. — Jackson
The Throne of the Third Heaven of the Nations’ Millennium General Assembly is a complex work of art created by James Hampton over a period of fourteen years. Hampton made the array based on several religious visions that prompted him to prepare for Christ’s return to earth. His reference to the “third heaven” is based on scriptures citing it as the “heaven of heavens” — God’s realm.
Hampton created his masterpiece in a rented carriage house, transforming its drab interior into a resplendent world. He hand-crafted many of the elements from cardboard and plastic, but added structure with found objects from his neighborhood, such as old furniture and jelly jars, and discards like light bulbs from the federal office buildings in which he worked. Hampton selected shimmering metallic foils, purple paper (now faded to tan), and other materials to evoke spiritual awe and splendor. — Smithsonian American Art Museum
I want to talk about skill, craft, technique — Clarky
As an artist, skill, craft and technique are crucial to what I do. Skill helps me realize what I want to create. Craft is a bit of a vague word to me, but technique is an aspect of skill. They're all very important. This is true across mediums and skill levels; to say that these things are important in making good art doesn't mean that only artists with an advanced level of knowledge and experience are good. — Noble Dust
It takes a lot of practice, practice, practice to get to Carnegie Hall--to perfect one's artistic performance to a level where expert musicians and connoisseurs will say, "Well done!" What is true for music is true for other arts; no great novel is a first draft; no great painting is the first sketch; one's home videos will never make it to Cannes or the Oscars. — Bitter Crank
As for this Collinwood ("the best known neglected thinker of our time"), I tend to be suspicious of statements like "The Greeks and Romans had no conception of what we call art as something different from craft." Perhaps, but what the Greeks valued as "craft" was pretty damn great. — Bitter Crank
Besides, we go round and round trying to decide what we will call art. — Bitter Crank711962
Picture looking around, art is the heat of that moment if, you, the looker, is thinking creatively; so what I ask is the art of looking around?(it can be different). — Varde
Luck is also an attribute, such as having a good idea ~pop into your mind. Have many artists drew something without prior experience with art/craft? — Varde
is there art you would call good for which not much skill is needed? — Clarky
I don't think so. Hampton's "Throne" looks very skillfully made to me (I was unaware of it by the way, thanks for turning me on to it). — Noble Dust
I think people apply this fantasy to art because they don't understand art or the creative process. If they did, they wouldn't make the mistake. People like myself have put thousands of hours of work into what we do; years and years of work. This week alone I've spent probably around 12 hours total notating a solo piano piece that's five minutes long. I'm not done yet and this is just the first draft. I'll probably spend at least 5 hours fine tuning it and redoing parts of it. This is just the musical notation, not a performance of the piece. Anyway, I hope you get the idea of my point here. — Noble Dust
Anyway, the point I was going to make before I went on a rant is that I think even art that appears to not require much skill requires more than you think. Simplicity is often harder to pull off than complexity. Simplicity requires a different skill set. — Noble Dust
Thinking out loud here (sorry for the spam), I think what's missing is that creativity itself is a skill. Skill isn't just technical competence; the ability to look at the world from a specific viewpoint in order to bring something creatively unique into existence is absolutely a skill; so whether the result is something complex or simple isn't important. — Noble Dust
What are your thoughts on the Woody Guthrie video? — Clarky
How much does vision and creativity make up for lack of technical skill — Clarky
Expert artists and connoisseurs are not the only or the primary audiences for most art. — Clarky
Technically perfect art without vision and feeling are sterile. — Clarky
To make good art, you have to have an experience worth conveying. — Clarky
Skeptical — Clarky
For what it's worth, Collingwood was a philosopher as well as a practicing historian and archeologist. Skeptical or not, I think what he says is worth listening to. — Clarky
What are your thoughts on the Woody Guthrie video? — Clarky
The unexamined life isn't worth painting. — Bitter Crank
It's not Collinwood's fault that the Greeks and Romans used media that rotted in dampness instead of baked clay tablets. — Bitter Crank
what they called craft - sculpture — Bitter Crank
when I'm creating a work, I'm not examining — Noble Dust
How much of my enjoyment of the song came from the skill of the musicians? What else matters? — Clarky
but sometimes really accomplished performers can sound slightly soulless. — Tom Storm
perhaps it is emotion. — Tom Storm
For me, however, great writing almost always seems like craft — Tom Storm
but they have something more - what is it? Buggered if I know — Tom Storm
Can you define "craft"? I still don't understand this word. — Noble Dust
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