I didn't ask why people ask it. I'm asking what they are saying, or assuming, when asking. Again, what is meaning? — Harry Hindu
Again, what is meaning? — Harry Hindu
If you answered it point me to where you answered it. If you think asking questions is a form of hostility then maybe you shouldn't participate on a philosophy forum. — Harry Hindu
Have you not suggested an answer yourself. Meaning is a human measure of significance. A measure of profundity, which has a range from low to high, small to big! — universeness
Have you not suggested an answer yourself. — universeness
That depends on how you define meaning. If meaning is the relationship between cause and effect then meaning is innate to the universe. In asking what the meaning of life is you are asking what caused life to exist and what purpose (which is just another type of cause as a prediction of future states based on one's goal in the present (final cause)) it has. — Harry Hindu
Then meaning is equivalent to value? Each human places varying degrees of value on different things, therefore meaning cannot be something objective and asking others what the meaning of life is would be useless. You would never need to ask the question of others.Meaning is a human measure of significance. A measure of profundity, which has a range from low to high, small to big! — universeness
Then meaning is equivalent to value? — Harry Hindu
Each human places varying degrees of value on different things, therefore meaning cannot be something objective and asking others what the meaning of life is would be useless. — Harry Hindu
Ad hominems and intellectual dishonesty are not an argument against anything that I have said. You would flunk a class in logic.I think you do not know what cause and effect means. You confuse cause with meaning. I think you would flunk an intro philosophy class. Your questions are formal and show lack of understanding. — Jackson
Ad hominems and intellectual dishonesty are not an argument against anything that I have said. You would flunk a class in logic. — Harry Hindu
All you have to do is watch the news to see that the value of human life varies from individual to individual. Why don't you go ask a serial killer what the meaning of life is.That is just your subjective opinion. — Jackson
All you have to do is watch the news to see that the value of human life varies from individual to individual. — Harry Hindu
Why don't you go ask a serial killer what the meaning of life is. — Harry Hindu
You edited your post where you seemed to disagree that value is subjective. — Harry Hindu
Then meaning is equivalent to value? Each human places varying degrees of value on different things, therefore meaning cannot be something objective and asking others what the meaning of life is would be useless. You would never need to ask the question of others — Harry Hindu
If 'seeking meaning' is seeking value then what makes a life valuable if not the effects it has on the world?It's a personal value measure, yes, it's subjective, yes. Seeking personal meaning may be objectively true. I suppose you would have to see how many dissent from that before you could declare 'seeking meaning' to be objective. I don't think it's useless to ask others about their measures of meaning as it can help you judge what kind of relationship you might establish with them. — universeness
If 'seeking meaning' is seeking value then what makes a life valuable if not the effects it has on the world? — Harry Hindu
No, it's yours as you are the one that thinks that value and meaning are objective. — Harry Hindu
If 'seeking meaning' is seeking value then what makes a life valuable if not the effects it has on the world? — Harry Hindu
I'm no longer interested in what you think. — Harry Hindu
How is this any different from saying that others judge your 'meaning/value' based on your effects on the world and their individual lives? Meaning and one's judgement of it are mutually exclusive. Meaning exists where ever causes leave effects. Any judgement of those effects is based on one's individual goals. So in judging some meaning to be bad or good, they are projecting their own wants and needs on to meaning that already exists as inherent in the universeIndeed. But others judge your 'meaning' or 'value' to the world or to their individual lives. — universeness
Right. So meaning is something that exists prior to seeking it as it is something that is looked for and found in nature, and not created by the mind. Not all meaning is useful to one's life, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist apart from your own wants and needs.I do think all humans seek meaning — universeness
Meaning exists where ever causes leave effects. — Harry Hindu
In the definition I have provided for meaning as the relationship between cause and effect. The definition I have provided stems from my own observations of others asking questions about what something means and what they actually mean in asking what something means is what caused it to happen.Where is your proof of that? Just asking you a question. — Jackson
How is this any different from saying that others judge your 'meaning/value' based on your effects on the world and their individual lives? — Harry Hindu
Not all meaning is useful to one's life, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist apart from your own wants and needs. — Harry Hindu
Nothing distracts one from one's distractions. Ultimately, "meaninglessness" is just another distraction.1. What causes a turn from distraction to facing the meaninglessness of human existence? — Tate
It's meaningless to "deal with it", so I don't.2. How do you personally deal with it?
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