Everybody is just waiting to see what the investigation brings to light. — Mongrel
Meh, I am pretty sure that many "are not waiting to see what the investigation brings to light". Some have already got him tried, convicted and are only waiting for the sentencing phase.
Heaven help us if Trump actually has his rights respected of being innocent until proven guilty and that 'proof' never comes. — ArguingWAristotleTiff
I believe that Trump could have been oblivious to any collusion going on in his campaign as well.The thing to remember is that the investigation into collusion is directed at the Trump campaign, and not Trump himself. It's entirely possible that there was collusion but that Trump was oblivious to it. — Michael
But, of course, Trump hasn't done himself any favours by seemingly obstructing justice. It's hard to not to see him as guilty of that given his remarks to the Russian ambassadors and Lester Holt about firing Comey. — Michael
Yes but "to see him as guilty" is a far cry from evidence of obstruction or collusion. — ArguingWAristotleTiff
How are Trumps remarks to the Russian ambassadors any different than when Obama was caught on a hot microphone talking to none other than the Russian President Dmitry Medvedev? It's all hustle whether it is in private or caught in the light of day.The evidence (of obstruction) is his remarks to the Russian ambassadors and Lester Holt (and Comey's memo). My point is that it's hard not to judge him as guilty given this evidence. — Michael
How are Trumps remarks to the Russian ambassadors any different than when Obama was caught on a hot microphone talking to none other than the Russian President Dmitry Medvedev? It's all hustle whether it is in private or caught in the light of day. — ArguingWAristotleTiff
This would be the likely way for any capable politician to wiggle out from the mess they are in. Basically just the way that Iran-Contra didn't touch Ronald Reagan.The thing to remember is that the investigation into collusion is directed at the Trump campaign, and not Trump himself. It's entirely possible that there was collusion but that Trump was oblivious to it. — Michael
Oh, we survived Stalin and the Cold War alone, so this isn't anything new.Heh, Finland has a cause for worry indeed: it was once a part of the Russian empire, and Stalin carved off a good chunk of it at the beginning of WWII. Putin just might come for seconds! — SophistiCat
Meh, I am pretty sure that many "are not waiting to see what the investigation brings to light". Some have already got him tried, convicted and are only waiting for the sentencing phase.
Heaven help us if Trump actually has his rights respected of being innocent until proven guilty and that 'proof' never comes. — ArguingWAristotleTiff
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