(Btw, great name from a great novel (& 1972 film adaptation)) — 180 Proof
What is a substance and what is a property?
substances are the foundational or fundamental entities of reality.so if you believe that there are two fundamental entities of reality, mind and physical, then the argument is aimed at that. — Solaris
1-The mind and body are two separate substances, and have no shared properties
2-two substances need one shared property to interact
3-the mind and body cannot interact — Solaris
If you believe that they are both fundamental, then they cannot be made up of the same thing(s) otherwise that thing would be the fundemental thing, that grounds all of reality. — Solaris
I don't think "the mind" is a thing; rather, its an abstraction of all the processes that we categorize as mental. — Relativist
That is the conclusion of the Enformationism thesis. The "stuff" or "substance" in this case is what Aristotle defined as the "form" or "essence" of a thing. On the leading edge of modern science, that essential something is now identified with Integrated (unified) Information (power to enform). In that case, there is no interaction problem, only an integration function. Just as Water & Ice are different forms of the same thing, Matter & Mind are functional forms of Energy. :nerd:It could be though that matter and mind are two properties of the same stuff, which is a kind of unified dualism, contrary as that might seem. — Hillary
At some point, there was a spark that produced an "inside" and an "outside", a perception that perceived a subject and a verb. It's hard to think about this, but what do you think could have been that first primordial and irreducible unit of consciousness? — Watchmaker
Subjective and objective things. — Count Timothy von Icarus
We can just use the answer "emergence," for all of these, but I don't think that's a particularly good answer. I'm not sure if emergence, as the term is generally understood, even applies for the interactions listed in #1 - #3, which is why I am skeptical that it is actually a good explanation for #6 by itself. — Count Timothy von Icarus
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