So you don't see removal of barriers as part of the solution? What distinguishes the two for you? — Isaac
I don't believe the US has ever been in a position to solve the problem. It's a global, long-term problem — Tate
According to the senator from West Virginia, whether or not civilization as we know it is saved solely depends on next month's CPI report. — Mr Bee
Let's wait for the problem to solve itself, oui mes amies? — Agent Smith
A good traveler leaves no tracks,
and a skillful speaker is well rehearsed.
A good bookkeeper has an excellent memory,
and a well-made door is easy to open and needs no locks.
A good knot needs no rope and it cannot come undone.
Thus the Master is willing to help everyone,
and doesn't know the meaning of rejection.
She is there to help all of creation,
and doesn't abandon even the smallest creature.
This is called embracing the light.
What is a good person but a bad person's teacher?
What is a bad person but raw materiel for his teacher?
If you fail to honor your teacher or fail to enjoy your student,
you will become deluded no matter how smart you are.
It is the secret of prime importance. — The holy Tao, Chapter 27
↪boethius I beg to differ. — Agent Smith
You beg to differ with a direct citation of the Tao while attempting to claim its cachée and mystique for yourself? — boethius
Have you seen climate records, as read from Antarctic ice cores? They tell a story of not one but many CO2 crises that resolved themselves without any intervention at all. — Agent Smith
↪boethius In my humble opinion, the biosphere is able to self-correct any perturbations from the equilibrium point. — Agent Smith
↪boethius I'm sure Google can help you out in searching for instances of life's self-correcting feature. — Agent Smith
Nevertheless, you're right on the money that this ability of the biosphere to right itself after being knocked over (roly-poly toy like) has limits - beyond a certain point, the point of no return, the system collapses into a death spiral. — Agent Smith
This is why scientists (the ones that produced the data you are talking about) are alarmed. That the changes to CO2 levels (and land-use, fish, etc.) we've caused is far beyond planetary boundaries. — boethius
Indeed but it was in a key position to encourage or discourage the efforts of others, and it did the latter, since the 90's or so until now. Very systematically too. The US owns this crisis. It's made in the USA. While the problem is global, the search for solutions is necessarily local. The US opted to deny the problem. — Olivier5
The CO2 we've added to the atmosphere will be absorbed into the oceans eventually. — Tate
The greatest challenge to life on earth so far was low CO2, btw. — Tate
High CO2 hasn't been been as much of a threat. — Tate
Al Gore was American. How many people knew about global warming outside the community of science nerds prior to his work? — Tate
has been part of the national curriculum in French highschool since the 70's. — Olivier5
Untrue statement.
Ocean concentration reaches a balance with CO2 atmospheric concentrations, that it is absorbing and releasing the same amount. — boethius
As the partial pressure of CO2 in the atmosphere increases, the amount of dissolved CO2 in the oceans will increase. It's Henry's Law. — Tate
The CO2 we've added to the atmosphere will be absorbed into the oceans eventually. — Tate
Have you seen climate records, as read from Antarctic ice cores? They tell a story of not one but many CO2 crises that resolved themselves without any intervention at all. — Agent Smith
↪boethius What? — Tate
The CO2 we've added to the atmosphere will be absorbed into the oceans eventually. — Tate
As the partial pressure of CO2 in the atmosphere increases, the amount of dissolved CO2 in the oceans will increase. It's Henry's Law. — Tate
The greatest challenge to life on earth so far was low CO2, btw. High CO2 hasn't been been as much of a threat. — Tate
Roughly 251 million years ago, an estimated 70 percent of land plants and animals died, along with 84 percent of ocean organisms—an event known as the end Permian extinction. The cause is unknown but it is known that this period was also an extremely warm one. A new analysis of the temperature and fossil records over the past 520 million years reveals that the end of the Permian is not alone in this association: global warming is consistently associated with planetwide die-offs. — Scientific America
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