I say no one exists without the living body. — 180 Proof
Eh? It's not about fear. If Tom - who has no fear of dying for he's just watching a bird eat a fly - is shot in the back of the head, he's harmed by that. — Bartricks
reincarnation — TiredThinker
Sigh. Yes, most contemporary philosophers do not believe in an afterlife. Which is why they think there is a puzzle about why death is harmful.
They try and explain how it would harm you despite you not existing at the time. And they fail and point this out to one another.
And it isn't dying - there's no puzzle about that. It's death. Not dying. Death. Christ. — Bartricks
Reincarnation isn't a falsifiable hypothesis with respect to recollection of past lives due to the fact that it's compatible with both memories of past lives (good recall) and also no memories of past lives (poor/defective recall).
Reincarnation is pseudoscientific woo woo! — Agent Smith
The implications of reincarnation open the door to some very many questions that cannot be tested in a manner consistent with the Scientific Method. (ie. a falsifiable hypothesis) — Rocco Rosano
What is it we are discussing? Is it simply that some person says they remember the past life (or lives)? Is this person some form of "host" to an energy form that has the capacity to replicate all the processes that would be necessary to perform these various functions? What are our base assumptions? — Rocco Rosano
Find out what life is, then the answer will be obvious.
— ArielAssante
What does this sentence mean?
What is it that puzzles you? — ArielAssante
I have come across some ideas along the line that death is harmful in that it is a deprivation of life. I don't buy that because if there is no afterlife, then there is no one to be deprived of anything. So, I can't see any justification for thinking that being dead is a harm. — Janus
Death is self-evidently harmful. And that's not just my reason making such representations, it's everyone's including yours - it's why you try and avoid it, yes? — Bartricks
It seems you are unable or unwilling to explain what puzzles you. Okay. — ArielAssante
We see death as harmful because it forcibly removes us from what we love, or are at least attached to. — Janus
Our bodies know pain whether it is the end of all for us, or just the beginning. — TiredThinker
No, we see it as harmful because our reason represents it to be. That's why there's a big debate about the harmfulness of death in philosophy. — Bartricks
You think killing someone doesn't harm them, yes? That's really silly. — Bartricks
I haven't said that. Of course killing someone harms them. Even if there is no pain involved it deprives them of life.They are harmed in the act of being killed. Of course once they are dead, if they cease to exist, then there is no longer anyone to be deprived of anything, but that doesn't change the fact that you harmed the person in the act of killing them. — Janus
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