effectively insolvent, old fat fascist Donny is quite fucked. :victory: :sweat: — 180 Proof

Is he actually though? People have been saying this for years. The guy atempted to kill democracy in the US yet remains free as a bird.

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Trump was called a fascist at the mere suggestion of investigating Biden or Clinton. They are everything they accused him of.

Source? I'm pretty sure Trump gets called a fascist not because of his suggestion to investigate Biden or Clinton but goading paramilitary organisations like the Proud Boys, undermined the governor of Michigan, tried to overturn the election result, hired officials with ties to white national groups, promised an all Muslim ban (and implemented rules toward that goal), emphatised with neo-nazis. While technically not a fascist, we can all see the way the wind is blowing and given half a chance he'd be only too happy to rule as a fascist - a prime example of "fascist creep" in US society.

Imagine if Trump’s DOJ raided Biden’s house in the lead up to the midterms. He was impeached for simply asking Zelensky to look into claims about Biden’s dealings in Ukraine.

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Lock him up! Lock him up!

They are everything they accused him of. — NOS4A2

They're a little more graceful.

You don't see any difference between American institutions, presumably acting within the framework of the rule of law as set out in its constitution and other statutory laws, and Trump pressuring Zelensky, by withholding 400 million USD that was mandated by congress, to dig up dirt on a political opponent in relation to what was then already debunked as a conspiracy theory?

Did Biden instruct the DOJ? Did Biden instruct the January 6 commission? If not, I really don't see what the point is you're trying to make other than expressing your undying and uncritical support for Trump as we've come to know you.

@180 Proof I want points for calling it early: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/726875.

Cue the vampire making excuses. — Benkei

e.g. @NOS4A2 & US House Minority Leader McCarthy

:sweat: :up:

As pointed out in this 10 February 2022 article https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/02/can-trump-be-barred-for-running-for-president-because-he-flushed-papers-down-a-toilet/ from Mother Jones magazine

Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States. — Title 18, Section 2071, of the US Code

[Emphasis added.]

However, as of 8 August 2022, and the execution of a search warrant by the FBI at tr45h's Florida residence for evidence of illegally taken and retained / destroyed (classified?) documents, the likelihood of prosecution and therefore tr45h's disqualification from holding Federal office ever again is substantially greater. Punishments for Sedition, Insurrection, Defrauding the US Government, etc also include the same disqualification.

Addendum to

Trump real estate appraiser hands over thousands of documents to N.Y. AG in civil probe

Appeals court says House can obtain Trump's taxes from the IRS

He’s having a bad day.

So I guess DeSantis will be the GOP nominee then in 2024?

Republicans and the right-wing media were starting to talk about other politicians than Trump. Congress got even something done. (Like uh, accepted my country and Sweden to NATO among things :grin: )

And now they, just like NOS4A2, took the bait.

Time for some of that Jan 6. magic to increase the polarization. Elections are coming.

:clap: :lol:

So I guess DeSantis will be the GOP nominee then in 2024? — Mr Bee

Let's hope so. :vomit:

Imagine if Trump’s DOJ raided Biden’s house in the lead up to the midterms. He was impeached for simply asking Zelensky to look into claims about Biden’s dealings in Ukraine. — NOS4A2

What a stupid life you live.

Trump was quite broody when he was informed that the FBI broke into his personal safe. But what really stroke fear into his heart is when he learned that they unclogged his toilet.

I fear this thread will go on still.

What I see is two-tiered justice. No FBI broke into Clinton’s house with guns drawn when she stored classified info in her house and destroyed evidence with hammers and bleachbit. They didn’t do it when the Clintons stole furniture from the white house. Trump dares to take a letter addressed to him from Obama and they show up with rifles and vests.

The FBI is stealing something or planting something, one or the other.

The FBI is stealing something or planting something, one or the other. — NOS4A2

Or there’s evidence of serious wrongdoing on Trump’s part but wasn’t on the Clintons’ part.

It’s a document dispute about the National Archives. And if there are classified materials involved the president can declassify whatever he wants.

And if there are classified materials involved the president can declassify whatever he wants. — NOS4A2

An ex-President can’t. He’d need to show that he declassified them before he left office.

Except of course she was investigated by the FBI for just that.

I like how Trump signed a law that increased the penalty for unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents from one to five years.

While technically not a fascist, we can all see the way the wind is blowing and given half a chance he'd be only too happy to rule as a fascist - a prime example of "fascist creep" in US society. — Benkei

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Exclusive: An Informer Told the FBI What Docs Trump Was Hiding, and Where

The raid on Mar-a-Lago was based largely on information from an FBI confidential human source, one who was able to identify what classified documents former President Trump was still hiding and even the location of those documents, two senior government officials told Newsweek.

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Both senior government officials say the raid was scheduled with no political motive, the FBI solely intent on recovering highly classified documents that were illegally removed from the White House.

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the FBI feared that the documents might be destroyed

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The act, and concerns about the illegal possession of classified "national defense information" are the bases for the search warrant, according to the two sources.

Why is someone like Trump not in prison and Julian Assange is???
Just asking :vomit:

Paul Manafort concedes he gave Trump campaign polling data to the Russians

@Benkei –

If Putin's bitch has kept in his unsecure residence "top secret" documents concerning US Nuclear Weapons (or those of foreign powers), then there is no question he has violated the Espionage Act of 1917. Upon the release today (or sometime soon) of the search warrant for Mar-a-Lago, tr45h will be exposed for the traitorous clear and present danger to the US (at least) he has seemed to be since 2017 and therefore unelectable as well as, once prosecuted, disqualified from holding any Federal office.

Consider:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-espionage-act-fbi-raid-b2142685.html

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espionage_Act_of_1917

update: Besides the potential crime noted above, the Atomic Energy Act of 1946 also comes into play if, in fact, nuclear documents were found among the two dozen or so boxes Individual-1 stole from the US government. Deep shit. :eyes: :fire:

Addendum to

update:
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/728496