When's the next ice age expected again? — Benkei
If someone is just advocating widening our understanding, we should not feel threatened by that. There's nothing wrong with that. — Tate
Being in the middle of crushing heat waves, draughts, and floods all at the same time here in 2021 — Xtrix
Is it already too late? — Xtrix
If so, will we reach tipping points no matter what policies we enact? — Xtrix
Will we actually turn ourselves into Venus? — Xtrix
If it's not too late, what exactly can we do to contribute to mitigating it? — Xtrix
Is there ANYONE out there who still doesn't consider this the issue of our time? — Xtrix
and that's an extremely threatening proposition to those who have been attempting to claim the moral high ground for years. — Tzeentch
Or a failure to function as a rational person. A rational person does not stick to their guns when the opposite has been proven, because they see through the normal bias others are slaves to. — Christoffer
It's not irrational to question the prevailing view. It's how we grow out body of knowledge. — Tate
There's a difference between questioning a prevailing view and irrational questioning out of group think and biases, especially if the bias is highly politically driven or based on emotional instability. — Christoffer
Universal cooperation is a pipe dream. Also the idea that we can quickly de-carbonize is a fantasy it seems. The "political" part of the problem is the promulgation of impossible targets, but also, the unwillingness (due to the perceived unpopularity) to promote the idea that we (in the "developed" nations) should all use much less energy; drive much smaller cars, use public transport, do without air-conditioning unless absolutely necessary, stop traveling overseas, choose locally grown foods etc. — Janus
Will we actually turn ourselves into Venus? — Xtrix
That would require a lot of neoliberals having absolute power to push industries not complying with climate goals. — Christoffer
Universal cooperation is a pipe dream. Also the idea that we can quickly de-carbonize is a fantasy it seems. The "political" part of the problem is the promulgation of impossible targets, — Janus
"solutions" would be too unrealistic at this stage it seems — Janus
Universal cooperation is a pipe dream. — Janus
The "political" part of the problem is the promulgation of impossible targets, but also, the unwillingness (due to the perceived unpopularity) to promote the idea that we (in the "developed" nations) should all use much less energy — Janus
This explains very clearly the problems involved with trying to de-carbonize rapidly. — Janus
But here's the interesting question to everyone.Agreed, we will still get a world drastically changed then how it was. For example, we will have annual heat waves of upwards of 45 degrees celsius in Europe based on the current progression, but if we fail to mitigate further it could end up being 50-55 degrees as peaks. Such high temperatures will be like someone putting a magnifying glass over the lands and burning a scar through Europe. Not to mention how it will be in places like Iraq, where heat waves already peaks at 50 degrees celsius. — Christoffer
But can we cope with it on the short-to-medium time range? — ssu
I think we can fare better than any people in history before us. Especially in the West we are so prosperous that having to make dramatic changes out of necessity will not collapse our societies. When our environment radically changes around us, we can adapt. — ssu
The future for the next 10,000 years isn't our problem. Or to put it correctly, doesn't happen because of just our generations.Yes. What I've been wondering for decades is whether civilization will survive the next 10,000 years. I feel broken hearted imagining that we're living at the end of an age, but on the bright side, it would give other lifeforms a break. — Tate
How exactly do you think the problem of climate change came about? — Isaac
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