Scientific method = a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.
Is this your understanding of the terms philosophy and science? — A Christian Philosophy
Philosophy (original meaning) is the search for truth — A Christian Philosophy
This seems to me to be imposing a scientific/Cartesian worldview on the Greeks. One that emphasizes epistemology. So the rest of the post is founded upon what I see is a false premise. — Xtrix
Philosophy (original meaning) is the search for truth; — A Christian Philosophy
Well, not really. Aristotle on Nichomachean Ethics proposed that one of the aim of wisdom was happiness — javi2541997
Something to what you say from an etymology and historical perspective, but lets not consider etymology and tradition to be the final authority on what a term means.Already on the wrong track. Philosophy’s “original” meaning is hardly the search for truth — and certainly not the kind of truth we talk about these days. This seems to me to be imposing a scientific/Cartesian worldview on the Greeks. One that emphasizes epistemology. So the rest of the post is founded upon what I see is a false premise. — Xtrix
Philosophy means love for 'sophia', which we translate as 'wisdom'. — Yohan
Most interesting. — Ms. Marple
Something to what you say from an etymology and historical perspective, but lets not consider etymology and tradition to be the final authority on what a term means. — Yohan
Philosophy (original meaning) is the search for truth; any type of truths that can be drawn from the natural world. And these truths can be split into many areas, called sciences. — A Christian Philosophy
Yes - that's what I meant in shorthand: the science of fundamentals of reality.is metaphysics really "the science of reality"? I think it would be study of what is outside our objective experience, thinking about the fundamental nature of reality. Not something that we can experiment with. Hence the word meta in front of physics. — ssu
This is indeed the modern meaning of "science", i.e. 17th century and onwards. But the word was used before in a broader sense. E.g. Aristotle used it as any topic that pertains to truth.Many people think of science as something where you can apply the scientific method, basically something that is experimental. Hence the difference what you mean by emprical and rational sciences ought to be discussed as many understand the scientific method to be empirical. — ssu
Yes - I think this is similar to what we call axioms or first principles. Metaphysics is sometimes called "first philosophy".metaphysical statements are not propositions but rather presuppositions. They are underlying assumptions which people are not generally aware of that underpin our understanding of reality and knowledge, including science. — T Clark
Indeed, first principles are the foundation for all our knowledge, including science; and by definition, they cannot be defended. However, by mere common sense, are they not obviously true? At the end of the day, planes fly.If we ignore or deny the fact that metaphysics and epistemology provide the foundation for science, the argument might convince scientists they can be truly objective. — T Clark
Indeed, first principles are the foundation for all our knowledge, including science; and by definition, they cannot be defended. However, by mere common sense, are they not obviously true? At the end of the day, planes fly. — A Christian Philosophy
As a former Christian, I must say that your post is quite logical, and well-presented. And I agree that "The empirical sciences have not replaced the rational sciences". I also accept that " there must be at least one thing that is eternal, unchangeable". Moreover, I concur that "Scientism, the belief that any claim that is not provable by the empirical sciences is meaningless”, is itself not provable by the empirical sciences". Hence, it must be accepted on faith in human senses, and their artificial extensions. Yet, Logic (Reason) is a sort of sixth sense, that deals with subjective ideas, not objective things.Is this your understanding of the terms philosophy and science? — A Christian Philosophy
I've always viewed science as discovering what is known from definitions. Philosophy questions definitions themselves. — Philosophim
It's really simple. The archaic mantra "love of wisdom", when defining philosophy, should receive a more rigorous scrutiny.I've always viewed science as discovering what is known from definitions. Philosophy questions definitions themselves. — Philosophim
Yes, I agree with that. We all seek what we believe to be good; and in order to find what is truly good, we must seek what is true. Philosophy is the search for truth, and this search is for the end of the true good.Aristotle on Nichomachean Ethics proposed that one of the aim of wisdom was happiness. — javi2541997
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