There is no definite determination what causes the global warming. We like to blame ourselves, (but leave me out of that please, I take no blame), for burning too much carbon. True, I shan't argue that, it contributes to global warming. But I am not convinced that that alone is the only contributing factor. — god must be atheist
The rate of warming we see is not due to natural variation. This is well established. A graphic display of the data is helpful -- it's undeniable. It's warming at an alarming pace, and it's doing so because of human activity -- the burning of fossil fuels, deforestation, etc. — Xtrix
I think you guys just shot yourselves in the foot. — god must be atheist
I mean, I did not even have to hunt for a graph or anything to shoot your argument down. You presented this graph which destroys your own argument.
I think you guys just shot yourselves in the foot. — god must be atheist
Still, some scientists argue there could have been other causes, but they're in the minority at this point. — Tate
At this point all we know is that there is no definite theory that gets complete buy-in; the consensus is of the majority, not of the entirety — god must be atheist
We don't usually require 100% buy-in before we accept scientific consensus. — Tate
Zealotry has set in, and yet scientists are as free as they ever were to investigate. — Tate
Who are "we"? — god must be atheist
Not quite. Scientific research requires a lot of money. Money comes from political sources. I think you know where this is heading. Scientists are NOT free to investigate as they wish — god must be atheist
Hundreds of scientists the world over have looked at the question and come up with the same answer: we're changing the climate. — Tate
Well if that's true, we're hopelessly in the dark about pretty much everything. Let's go back to the Stone Age and start over. — Tate
Yes, we are!! I am not arguing that. I am arguing that there is or might be natural forces that are precipitating this change, and that the global warming is not created by man alone.we're changing the climate — Tate
we're changing the climate
— Tate
Yes, we are!! I am not arguing that. I am arguing that there is or might be natural forces that are precipitating this change, and that the global warming is not created by man alone. — god must be atheist
Do we know what that something else was? this is not a rhetorical question; please, Tate, if you care, tell me just the fact whether we know what that force of heat energy sink or source was. — god must be atheist
If we know what it was, then we can look for it in today's world. — god must be atheist
This is clear indication that there are forces other than man-made that make global warming and cooling. — god must be atheist
In conclusion: Current mainstream scientific opinion is that the CO2 concentration increased, and that was a product of human activity. This causes global warming. — god must be atheist
We don't know what effected them, and what the forces were; so we are not at a liberty by logical and scientific thought to dismiss those forces as not being a part of today's global climate change. — god must be atheist
the alarmist attitude of species extinction and human extinction can be brought to be questioned. — god must be atheist
The flora will thrive in the hot, carbon-dioxide-rich atmosphere. They will turn the excess carbon dioxide and water into oxygen and fibres, sugar. — god must be atheist
We do know what the forces were. I just described it to you. — Tate
Scientists don't expect human extinction to take place due to global warming. — Tate
“If we face this problem head on, if we listen to our best scientists, and act decisively and passionately— I still don’t see any way we can survive.” — Xtrix
My impression was that you said the causes we suspect are insufficient in explaining the phenomenon. — god must be atheist
So the statement "we do know what those forces were", is, I am sorry, false. — god must be atheist
Maybe, but I am going by the clip on the Video displayed on the top of this page. That, as far as I can see it, predicts human extinction. — god must be atheist
Precisely. That's what I've been advocating, too, on these pages. Only problem is, Agent Smith, we haven't found this Agent X that causes both. Nobody is even looking for it, the scientific community is so complacently satisfied that CO2 increase is what causes global warming, and that it's human created. — god must be atheist
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