the significance of the principle of 'truth' — Jack Cummins
So, to what extent can truth be explained logically, or empirically, or in terms of values and, to what extent does the idea of 'post-truth capture fragmentation in philosophical understanding? There are threads which explore the logical aspects of truth, but I am intending this to be more about the meaning of truth and how this comes into play in values. — Jack Cummins
But whatever is the truth, you only get as close to it as "believing this true." — Pantagruel
post-truth and all the political errors that ensue. — Banno
I am inclined to think that Pilate's question about truth was not about logical propositions at all, but about various perspectives and biases in the process of perception. — Jack Cummins
Thing is, our various perspectives and biases are not contained in our perceptions, which only informs us there is something to which an assignment of a truth value is possible. — Mww
I am intending this to be more about the meaning of truth and how this comes into play in values. Some may see truth as a matter of logic and, to what extent is it about the principles of rationality or about human meaning and the framing of understanding? it is in this context which I raise the question of 'post- truth' and its significance, in relation to the idea of 'truth'. How do you understand the concept of 'post-truth" itself? — Jack Cummins
I don't think this subject has much to do with truth as such. It's about a distrust of mainstream truth, not the notion of truth per say. Trump voters, for instance, are very certain about truth.
I don't think truth has ever been especially popular with people. People tend to follow the dominant narratives and prejudices of their culture or subculture. Certainly those who follow religions (for instance) have rarely been concerned with examining the truth of their beliefs. These are unquestioned and inherited models of reality. Nor have racists or misogynists been much concerned with the truth of their worldview and values either. — Tom Storm
Our perceptions are in themselves perspectival biases. — Joshs
Then in your second paragraph you claim that people are not interested in truth. Are you trying to make a distinction between their perception of their commitment to truth and what they actually do? — Joshs
Is the assertion that those who hold onto racist and misogynist views are simply ‘factually incorrect’ itself a circular argument? — Joshs
Broadly speaking, a value which satisfies a variable of a self-consistent function is a truth (Dewey-Quine?) Narrowly, a truth is also a public fiction without which a species cannot survive or a community cannot function (Nietzsche?)Some may see truth as a matter of logic and, to what extent is it about the principles of rationality or about human meaning and the framing of understanding? — Jack Cummins
For me it indicates ... wtf ... "alternative facts" (i.e. H. Frankfurt's bullshit).How do you understand the concept of 'post-truth" itself?
How do you understand the concept of 'post-truth" itself?
For me it indicates ... wtf ... "alternative facts" (i.e. H. Frankfurt's bullshit). — 180 Proof
Also, I remember in sociology that there was an emphasis on how the mass media represent the ideas of the elite who own the media companies, and how stories are put forward in order to sell the papers as 'the manufacture of news'. — Jack Cummins
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