there is an alternative view that is at least semi-respectable. https://www.hearing-voices.org — unenlightened
The hearing voices approach is supported by all the psychiatrists and mental health services I know of here. I think it is well understood that not all voices are problematic. — Tom Storm
Shame you waited for me, a rank amateur, to point it out. — unenlightened
I was talking about psychiatry, not psycho-social and peer support — Tom Storm
a determinedly negative view you've put based on what seems to be prejudice. — Tom Storm
The distancing is noted — unenlightened
the 'support' you speak of is that condescending kind — unenlightened
give not an inch of power but 'allows' what was previously forbidden — unenlightened
because it is conveniently cheap. — unenlightened
Maybe you could start by making an actual argument with evidence? — Tom Storm
It is, of course a mere dogma that identity is or ought to be unitary, and that dogma, that demands that 'other' voices be silenced, does tend to make those voices antagonistic and sometimes violent; which then becomes the 'evidence' of pathology. — unenlightened
Tom, no offence but you are part of the problem with the current state of psychology. — Deus
Peddle the psychobable and prejudice all day it won’t make it right. — Deus
The evidence is already linked to on the hearing voices network site, that when 'voices' are engaged with and responded to, they are less likely to be negative and violent. — unenlightened
they are less likely to be negative and violent. — unenlightened
And there are no animal psychiatrists. Diagnosing a mental illness in humans requires the human mind of a trained individual.How come there are no documented cases of insanity in wild animals? Also, there are no animal philosophers. — Agent Smith
My hunch is the psychiatric profession will be discredited — Mark Nyquist
A hunch or my opinion.
I didn't short you on the philosophic details. They're in my previous comments.
If psychiatry has a good working understanding of what information is or theories of mental content in psychosis cases then what are they? — Mark Nyquist
With so many mad people, it's amazing how we can get anything done at all! — Agent Smith
In the case of psychosis we are dealing with information in its true form. A physical brain and mental content. An example of how ridiculous the psychiatric profession is is the symptom of conspiracy theories. Clearly mental content but often used as a basis for forced drugging. And forced it is. If you observe these cases going through the courts there is no doubt people are being drugged against their wills with the backing of governments without knowing how bad the underlying science really is. — Mark Nyquist
An example of how ridiculous the psychiatric profession is is the symptom of conspiracy theories. — Mark Nyquist
Genetic processes are entirely physical both in expression and replication so why would the use of the term information even be needed? More of a false projection of our minds onto our environment than anything real. — Mark Nyquist
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