Do you think we have a duty to create more beings that need to fulfill some role like working in society? Mind you, not figure out what to do with those who are born and can’t work but add a new person. — schopenhauer1
Larry is happy in his abilities. He goes home feeling content, even if it is with smug relish in how much of an asset he is to his company. He’s just an asshole we’ll say. He may even view himself as rightfully “efficient” to others who he feels are just not as good as him and they need to be shown that. Maybe it’s part of his personality. We can say he has narcissistic tendencies.
Actually he’s quite friendly with management and they tacitly condone his behavior because they like that he makes them money. — schopenhauer1
Which is more important, to have a good character or to be useful? — schopenhauer1
Apples and onions. :roll:One is useful in a tangible output way and the other is simply a nice guy but produces no output. — schopenhauer1
You might as well ask whether a fleece coat or sunscreen is more important. It depends, what's the weather like? — _db
I would classify being a "narcisisstic asshole" as failing - failing, perhaps not at his job, but at life.
Larry is the real tragedy here, since his lack of virtue (a state of affairs that he is likely unaware of and also cannot be fully attributed to him) denies him the experience of true happiness and beauty. Whatever shallow contentedness he may find is but dressing on the wounds. He experiences limbo at best, and hell at worst. — Tzeentch
Only where there is surplus water, food, shelter, oxygen, 'ugly Bettys' and medical supplies.Is there really room for Bobs? — schopenhauer1
Only when there is an acute scarcity of labor, security and medical supplies.Aren't Larrys more prized?
How do you / I know I am not a "Larry"?What if you had to give up any positive character trait to be like Larry? — schopenhauer1
Gotta play the hand I've been dealt as well as I can, so the question is moot.Would that be a world worth living in?
Tying this in to modern society. Is there really room for Bobs? — schopenhauer1
Aren't Larrys more prized? — schopenhauer1
The issues I am about to raise may seem like a tangent, and perhaps they are, but I cannot but raise them.Larry is a big piece of shit in how he treats people. He is mean, taunting, smug, unhelpful to others, makes fun of people ruthlessly, shows off, overly competitive about everything to the point of hubris, controlling, aggressive, backstabbing, and a whole lot of other negative character traits.
HOWEVER, Larry is also REALLY good at his job. He is the most productive person on his team, and creates great value for the company, even being a direct reason for its growth in terms of output. Jobs are created from Larry's output actually, and the products are quite useful to certain sectors of society in terms of satisfying the needs of that industry. — schopenhauer1
1) it does depend on the job. If it's a cigarrette manufacturer, his effectiveness wins few points for me. — Bylaw
how do we track the effects of him being a piece of shit? as someone who has worked with toxic people, I think they shorten lives, cause incredible suffering and affect the productivity of others. How do we track the value in all that? How do we put a number on that? (I do feel an antinatalist would at least have some sympathy for this issue, if not necessarily agreement) — Bylaw
They may present themselves politely, perform kind acts, listen well. But if they aren't getting the dishes off the tables, they are likely a passive-aggressive busboy. — Bylaw
On the other hand, truly kind people need to confront these assholes and help make it impossible for them to continue being assholes. — Bylaw
The cost is hard to track and may be displaced on family members and even organizations not within that workplace. — Bylaw
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