In any case all I was looking for was a counter-argument to the argument that the more objective view is the less limited, more comprehensively informed view. — Janus
Agreement, yes. Much better than "shared subjectivity", whatever that might be - a contradiction, on the face of it. We phrases our propositions so as to maximise agreement. We can agree that from where I stand the knife is on the right, but from where you stand it is on the left.
By phrasing statements so that they are true from anywhere, we can maximise agreement. That's not a bad way to think about objectivity. — Banno
The question is which is the more objective, the more informed, view in relation to the question as to whether the Earth is stationary relative to the Solar System; the view from the Earth or the view from nowhere in particular, i.e.the view from anywhere not confined to the particular. limited view(s) from Earth? — Janus
So it is not wrong to say that the Sun orbits the Earth. It just leads to much more complicated equations that give you no good intuition for the behavior of gravity.
Here, seeing as how you are incapable of doing your own research...
How General Relativity Complicates What We Know About Earth's Orbit
So it is not wrong to say that the Sun orbits the Earth. It just leads to much more complicated equations that give you no good intuition for the behavior of gravity.
Sometimes this forum is like dealing with toddlers.. — Banno
From a point of view outside the Solar system, looking at it as a whole, would you say it is more correct to say the Earth and the other planets orbit the Sun or that the Sun orbits the Earth? Does the Sun or the Earth form the centre of gravity of the Solar System? — Janus
So it is not wrong to say that the Sun orbits the Earth. It just leads to much more complicated equations that give you no good intuition for the behavior of gravity. — Banno
THE TODDLERS HAVE SPOKEN!!!!!! — Mww
Hahaha, the joke is on us. — Metaphysician Undercover
The idea of “real” or “reality” comes up frequently on the forum, often in relation to quantum mechanics. It has struck me the concept is not usually defined explicitly or carefully. To me the way it is used often seems wrong-headed. I have spent a lot of time thinking about the concepts of “being” and “existence.” I think “reality” is related to those ideas, but not the same thing. Here are some definitions of "real" from sources on the web. — T Clark
Some philosophical approaches deny there is any reality. — T Clark
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