A sign of a "winning" army would be taking Kherson — boethius
taking Kherson would be a turning point. — boethius
Losing Kherson would be both bad militarily (likely thousands, if not tens of thousands, stuck and captured troops) as well as intensely embarrassing. — boethius
The Russians surely didn't give ground for free. They avoided a possible encirclement of their forces. There's nothing odd at that. Remember that the fighting at Kherson has gone since the summer in earnest. So holding the defensive line for months isn't "giving up ground for free"."The odd" is that you don't give up ground for free when at war. Period. — Tzeentch
Details: Ukraine has outlined the following 10 propositions:
What makes you think so? — neomac
for Russia this war is about securing land access to Crimea — Tzeentch
Xi nixed the nuclear option. — frank
Tzeentch is unable to imagine a world where brutal dictators don't win. — Olivier5
Still, the Chinese leader, who before the war referred to Putin as his best friend, notably stopped short of asking Russia to withdraw, a key demand for Ukraine and its Western backers. — China’s Xi warns Putin not to use nuclear arms in Ukraine · Stuart Lau · POLITICO · Nov 4, 2022
We cannot afford any further escalation — Li Keqiang
We have agreed that threatening nuclear attacks is irresponsible and dangerous. I have told President Xi the importance for China to exert its influence on Russia. — Olaf Scholz
Accusations of partisanship is all you have left? — Tzeentch
Ukraine's current position is the best it's ever going to be, and it will only deteriorate from here, — Tzeentch
Such a statement is meaningless, because Russia isn't seriously considering the use of nuclear weapons yet. If, after further escalation / mobilization by Russia NATO chooses to intervene with boots on the ground, nuclear weapons use will definitely be on the table, and what China thinks of it won't play a role anymore at that point. — Tzeentch
shit hitting the fan? — neomac
Let us reconvene in a month, and see how that particular prediction panned out. — Olivier5
?Russia is going to get what it wants, and the only variable is how much of Ukraine will be destroyed in the process. — Tzeentch
https://www.dw.com/en/russian-missiles-cross-into-nato-member-poland-report/a-63770954
shit hitting the fan? — neomac
Now this explosion in Poland. Right before winter.
Cool heads must prevail. — Manuel
But that would only be relevant if the deal were to stop Ukraine invading the 'new' Russia ie the deal involved the ceding of Ukrainian territory to Russia. — Isaac
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