Is there any justification for censorship of any kind?
If so - where, when, why and by whom?
This is the sentence I struggle with.Is there any justification for censorship of any kind? — Vera Mont
Is there a book or even a pamphlet title that for you, would be a step too far? — universeness
and much worse, are available on the internet.How to be a better criminal (100 tips to escape justice).
The terrorist/freedom fighters tool kit.
How to control people.
Best ways to kill yourself.
Why the white way is the right way. — universeness
How to be a better criminal (100 tips to escape justice).
The terrorist/freedom fighters tool kit.
How to control people.
Best ways to kill yourself.
Why the white way is the right way — universeness
Of late, some state legislatures have banned certain textbooks from their public schools, not on the grounds of inadequate or incorrect information but on the grounds of inappropriate subject matter. — Vera Mont
I think you'll find that most banning or challenges take place through local school districts or governments. Given the peculiar fascination with and dread of sex in our Great Republic, my guess would be that most books proscribed have to do with sex. — Ciceronianus
They came to prominence over the desergragation of schools and they have never altered that position.The bans have largely targeted books that focus on race and LGBTQ issues, and a large number of the banned books are written by non-white or LGBTQ authors.
I was fortunate enough to grow up in Toronto in the late 50's and early 60's. While the school library didn't stock anything raunchy or communist, the public libraries were quite liberal. What influenced me in the literature curriculum: Frost - come to think of it, most of the assigned poetry was inspiring - Dickens, Shakespeare, Hardy. I can't recall what novels we took besides 'Mayor of Casterbridge'' (which prompted me to go read Hardy); I know I went on to Trollope, Thackeray, Lawrence - was quite taken with 19th century Brits for a while, which led naturally to 19th century French and Russian writers... Oh, yes, 'Heart of Darkness' gave us a lot to chew over, though I never came to like Conrad. Thing is, whether the subject matter is politically controversial or not, good writing is worth getting to know. If it is controversial, it's worth discussing. If it engages the student's imagination and curiosity, it will have an influence.while in school, particularly in elementary and high school, how many books which you were compelled to read as a student influenced you in any significant respect? — Ciceronianus
How would they know they want to read something the don't even know exists?If they want to read them, they'll find a way to do so regardless of any ban. — Ciceronianus
Deciding no to include a book because a significant number of people in the community find it offensive is not necessarily unreasonable. — T Clark
Keeping books that include sexual content, violence, and difficult social issues out of elementary school libraries is also not necessarily unreasonable. — T Clark
I wouldn't have wanted my children, all adults now, to have to deal with that stuff. — T Clark
Yes, the family unit has the right to ban some reading materials from their household. If you or an organization starts censoring the family unit of that banning, then where does that leave all of us?Is there any justification for censorship of any kind? — Vera Mont
How would YOU control access to online info? What methods would you use?
What actually works and is very hard to circumnavigate?
What would achieve the honourable goal of protecting the vulnerable?
It seems very dangerous and foolish to suggest that no controls at all, is the best we can do. — universeness
How would YOU control access to online info? What methods would you use? — universeness
I think it's very necessary/interesting/important, perhaps even vital to debate the issue of the internet and the immense, perhaps even the most significant power there is on the planet today, which affect people's world viewpoints. BUT we really do all have to think about how this incredible power to influence people should be controlled/wielded.
Right now, it seems to me, that's its currently like a delivery system that can reach so many people so quickly that its power to spread positivity or negativity is equally in capability.
The fact that its power is currently underappreciated and uncontrolled and in the hands of a nefarious looking few is of great concern. — universeness
These are serious problems we need to somehow address simultaneously if we want to maintain freedom of speech but protect the vulnerable at the same time — Benj96
No-one should be killing themselves as a direct result of their experiences on the internet.
Is a personal walled garden system a feasible way forward or even the beginnings of one?
If not, what controlled, secured individualised 'view' (if any) of the internet would YOU support?
Let's leave the issue of 'who' would create/enforce that 'personalised view' for now. Let's concentrate on the 'what' for now? 'What' would you include in an internet view/access for 5 to 12 years olds? or teenagers or '60+ years of age?' — universeness
Yes, the family unit has the right to ban some reading materials from their household. — L'éléphant
If you or an organization starts censoring the family unit of that banning, then where does that leave all of us? — L'éléphant
It makes perfect sense to pick what students learn and the order they learn it in. Does a pedagogical system necessarily have to be framed as ‘just’ or ‘unjust’. — I like sushi
You mentioned 'bullying.' Anonymity is a big internet issue. Do you think you should be able to post anonymously? Should anonymity only be allowed when the possible response may be your own personal endangerment? — universeness
What do you think? How could we move forwards and make the internet become the fantastically positive tool it could be — universeness
What if "that stuff" that's being kept from them is about people who are unlike them in some way? (Yes, if Billy-Bob says he's really a girl, he's a girl. It's okay to stop feeling guilty because you were attracted to him. Yes, the people in China are also human beings, and they didn't invent the Covid virus. ) Or factual history? (No, the Civil War was not stolen, the Confederacy lost; General Lee did not ride proudly into the glorious sunset and Jim Crow was not a very good policy...) — Vera Mont
How would they know they want to read something the don't even know exists? — Vera Mont
(as you see I have up on the formal language we once argued about with some weeks ago) lol — Benj96
I wouldn't be unhappy as a parent if the elementary grades focused on basics without a lot of controversial issues being discussed. Younger children need to see the physical and human worlds as coherent and enduring and that adults have some sort of consensus understanding of how things work. Of course it's more complicated than that, but I don't see any harm in waiting till middle school to start getting into that. — T Clark
In some circumstances freedom of information makes more sense than in others. — I like sushi
Does that mean the state/church should dictate what children under - what age? 12, 13, 14? - cannot know about? — Vera Mont
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