It is very clear that a true form of democracy hasn't existed in any government. — TheMadMan
In the end, my position is that there will never be a true from of democracy as long as The People (master) is missing and so failing to put the servant (government) in its proper place, and that starts from the hard work of every individual on their (all-directions) development. — TheMadMan
There is no 'The People' as such there are just people - cacophonous, diverse, polarized people — Tom Storm
Not one mention — by anyone — about organizing. No talk of working together with others, no talk of unions, no talk of outreach. It’s all up to the “individual.” — Mikie
Conservatives are usually excellent organizers. I assume it's because they're usually older, and their cause is associated with religion and traditional values. — frank
“Organizing”…it’s worked so well up until now. — NOS4A2
It's more likely because, at any age, they are believers in Law and Order - that is, top-down governance, chain of command, bosshood (they prefer to call it leadership): a pyramid structure of power. Which, of course, tends toward some form of monarchy — Vera Mont
Liberals are loosely organized, constantly shifting power relations, leadership and policy: it seeks consensus (mostly in vain). — Vera Mont
rule of law and monarchy are directly opposed concepts. — frank
It's about the principle of personal autonomy and civic co-operation. In practice, it seeks consensus, in preference to imposing one person's or faction's decisions on everyone else. Which conservatives very much do.liberalism isn't really about consensus — frank
For the liberal, if the choice is between living morally and dying, they choose death. The conservative puts life first. Or at least that's one way to look at it. — frank
The phrase "rule of law" as is generally used in modern western political parlance is assumed to refer to a legal system enacted by a congress or parliament, because that's the system we're used to. — Vera Mont
liberalism isn't really about consensus
— frank
It seeks consensus, in preference to imposing one person's or faction's values on everyone else. Which conservatives very much do. — Vera Mont
American liberals do fervently want to impose their view on others.
— frank
And conservatives don’t? — praxis
That's in line with the importance they place on morality.
— frank
Morality isn’t as important to conservatives? — praxis
to reverse today’s inequality requires a robust embrace of unions—but of unions that are democratic, focused on bottom-up rather than top-down strategies, and place the primary agency for change in workers acting collectively at work and in the communities in which they reside.
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