In a nutshell: because correlation doesn’t explain consciousness. — Art48
Yea, I see how that could mislead. My bad.Your claim was not merely that it has not been, but that it could not be, explained (likened to trying to reach the earth from the moon by car). — Isaac
This is exactly what I disagree with. Look at the mouse trap thought experiment. The spring has 2 physical states which perfectly correspond to 2 mental states (1. excitement/anticipation and 2. release/relaxation). But such correspondence in no way explains how a mouse trap could be conscious.I'd say there are important questions unanswered.Art48
What more would you need to know though? If you can explain what every physical state means mentally, then you've answered all the important questions. — khaled
But just as the wood and spring of the mouse trap in no way explain how a mouse trap could be consciousness, the laws of biology, chemistry, electricity, and quantum mechanics in no way explain consciousness—or even hint that consciousness is possible. — Art48
Knut Nordby — Andrew4Handel
We seem to be in a similar situation: no understanding of physical processes, however complete, explains consciousness. — Art48
Another in a tiresome series of posts confusing the poster's personal inability to understand neuroscience with there being no facts of neuroscience to understand. — Isaac
the laws of biology, chemistry, electricity, and quantum mechanics in no way explain consciousness—or even hint that consciousness is possible… no understanding of physical processes, however complete, explains consciousness. — Art48
Antonio Damasio is a neuroscientist who studies the biological foundations of mental processes, including consciousness. The book I have is "The Feeling of What Happens." — T Clark
Thanks! Got it just now on Kindle. I'll give it a good read — Constance
To break with this requires an entirely different paradigm of knowledge relations; radically different. Can't imagine a neurological approach finding this. — Constance
What is it like to be an apple? — Philosophim
Our brains contain networks and catalogs and hierarchies of biologically contained non-physicals that will never be detected by any physical means, ever, regardless of the science. — Mark Nyquist
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