In Sartre's philosophy, this would be inauthentic — schopenhauer1
Try love. You suffer all the time. Go suffer for other people, say for 1 month, and see how you feel. Suffering is a resource and you're spending it on the wrong stuff. You don't have a family to support, so you really are free if you have any balls. — Roke
Not only that, but most *big* things are the result of very long hours spent at honing something - whether that's a skill, a trade, a relationship, etc. That requires habit - otherwise you'll never put in the energy, each and every day, to get it done.Habits are part of successful and authentic life. Habits enable us to use our limited resources to make important decisions when they arise. — Bitter Crank
You do not need to have so much anxiety. You do not need to feel that your life is pointless drudgery.
And what we should be passing on is the encouragement and ability to be able to live in radically different ways. — Terrapin Station
The labor of everyday life (the 9-5 job) is loaded with inauthenticity with far more consequence than getting your hair cut short once or twice a month. Politics is infested with inauthenticities, as is religious endeavor, artistic enterprises, and lots of other stuff. We might be capable of authentically and freely choosing each and every options in our lives, but a necessary part of being human is limiting the occasions when deliberation is required. Habits are part of successful and authentic life. Habits enable us to use our limited resources to make important decisions when they arise. — Bitter Crank
Are you accomplishing anything or being authentic in making this thread? Genuine question. — Thorongil
The general tendency that procreation is good because we have procedure followed by release-valve, stimulation seems like a milktoast answer at best. — schop
If a procedure proved helpful, why not pass it on and maintain it? Seems to be the reasonable thing to do.Does this lead to the conclusion that this general pattern of procedure and stimulation must be passed on and maintained? — schopenhauer1
For the continuity of that which works.What are we passing this on for? — schopenhauer1
I don't think it's a "we" issue at heart. Most of the time I am glad to have been born. My consciousness of my freedom and my value-for-myself emerged with difficultly from the usual confusion of childhood and young adulthood. It sucks that this consciousness is so fragile. Give me 1000 years down here. Give me 100,000 years down here. That's the attitude I have when I am fascinated. At the moment, theoretical computer science is blowing my mind. It's the coolest shit I've ever seen. I wish I had read some of these books as a teenager. But better late than never.We are "condemned to be free" yet we inauthentically choose guidelines that help us with the procedural drudgery and mix it in with enough stimulation to get by. Does this lead to the conclusion that this general pattern of procedure and stimulation must be passed on and maintained? I am not sure. I do not see why this should be. What are we passing this on for? — schopenhauer1
2) Procreation is not always bad (try to deal with this one) — Roke
It seems to me to be a lot of repetition, procedural drudgery, and instrumentality. — schopenhauer1
It seems to me like your rationalising your state of mind. 'Most folks', said Abe Lincoln, 'are about as happy as they want to be'. I have always found that a very hard saying. — Wayfarer
What's funny is there is so much hostility when it comes to questioning life itself, in a philosophy forum out of all places. It is assumed it must be good, and someone questioning should be castigated. The notion itself is not even taken seriously, yet people are willing to entertain all sorts of philosophical stances even for the sake of devil's advocate, except this one. Too close to home perhaps. Too real. Easier to deal with symbolic logic and unicorns. — schop
So what are we trying to accomplish and is it worth creating more people to accomplish it? — schopenhauer1
I can hear anecdotes all day about how someone had this great experience, but just like the evening news that provides a heart-warming last segment, it's only a segment, and the news has to make decisions on what to edit, what to present, how to construct the narrative a certain way. How am I to know people do not just do that on a philosophy forum? Anecdotes can be like these segments, edited to make a whole life seem a certain way. — schopenhauer1
Does getting caught up in a certain field last forever? Will this not too get bogged down in procedure? Perhaps we can all just be theoretical mathematicians/logicians/computer scientists/regular scientists and that will solve all our problems as we grapple with the esoteric nature of this or that logical statement or the next experiment? — schopenhauer1
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