So if I cure somebody of leprosy, that brings back pain (an unpleasant experience) into their hands say, and I've done them harm in doing so. Unpleasant experience wouildn't exist if it didn't have a benefit.I view harm as an unpleasant experience of any kind and something only conscious beings can have. — Andrew4Handel
I view harm as an unpleasant experience of any kind — Andrew4Handel
What is harm? — Andrew4Handel
Can a tree be harmed? It doesn't particularly have experiences that can be categorized as pleasant or not, and it doesn't seem to hold 'value', and yet I can arguably harm one. — noAxioms
↪Joshs I think harm is less deniable than the good. Pain seems to be obviously bad but pleasure could be obtained from anything good or bad. — Andrew4Handel
You mean like S-M? It hurts so good? Pleasure through pain? Harm me, baby? — Joshs
I think harm, is bad by definition because a good harm seems to be an oxymoron. — Andrew4Handel
I view harm as an unpleasant experience of any kind and something only conscious beings can have — Andrew4Handel
Sweeping definitions often lead to problems. This formulation leads to defining all sorts of good things -- dentistry, running a marathon, dieting to lose excess weight, surgery ... -- as bad, which they clearly are not. — BC
But if you take the alternate stance that not all pain is bad then who decides how much pain is acceptable and why? — Andrew4Handel
But if you take the alternate stance that not all pain is bad then who decides how much pain is acceptable and why?
— Andrew4Handel
The person experiencing the pain decides. We don't have a way of measuring pain in an objective way. — BC
all sorts of good things -- dentistry, running a marathon, dieting to lose excess weight, surgery — BC
Harm has (classically) been defined in terms of suffering. So if you cause suffering, you're harming — Agent Smith
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