Banned @Olivier5 for persistently attempting to derail a thread with accusations of trolling and so on, refusing to stop when I asked, calling me an idiot and refusing to take it back, and then suggesting I ban him and saying he wouldn't care if I did.
He would disagree with parts of that, but those are my reasons. — Jamal
However, I think it is quite unjust to permanently ban a long-term poster who has contributed well and evenly for most of their TPF travels. — Amity
Time out for a re-think and for calm to prevail. — Amity
It would be the staining of the character of a made up name that a person has on a philosophy forum whose members can be from anywhere in the world. I don't think this is a real concern. There is the practical issue of this person never getting to be here again, but he or she is not going to get funny looks while walking down the street or more rigorous grilling at job interviews. We don't know who they are and the rest to of the world doesn't even know what this forum is.There has to be a fairer method before any permanent staining of a character. — Amity
Time out for a re-think and for calm to prevail.
— Amity
Sounds more suitable for kindergarten than a grown up discussion. — unenlightened
If you are thinking about justice, I would suggest you are misconstruing the situation. — unenlightened
It's not much fun moderating, and bans are no fun at all. Mods agonise over decent posters gone rogue, and even listen to criticism in threads like this. — unenlightened
Temporary bans have been tried, and found to be troublesome, possibly because they foster the idea that bans are a punishment that might be just or more likely unjust, rather than the site protecting its reputation and integrity. — unenlightened
This is the reason I think it's futile to bring back banned members. — god must be atheist
However, I think it is quite unjust to permanently ban a long-term poster who has contributed well and evenly for most of their TPF travels.
— Amity
These members don't get banned. — god must be atheist
A NUMBER of banned members come back with a different identity (all they need is a different email address) and then later they get banned again for the SAME MISDEMEANORS as before. — god must be atheist
And there are other forums to go to. — Bylaw
It would be the staining of the character of a made up name that a person has on a philosophy forum whose members can be from anywhere in the world. I don't think this is a real concern. — Bylaw
Bans are indeed a punishment — Amity
When were they tried? What consituted 'temporary'? — Amity
It is only a concern when it is related to the 'status' of a forum member.
If you see the label 'Banned' on someone's profile, what is your first impression? — Amity
It would be better to find a neutral term - "account closed" — unenlightened
If you see the label 'Banned' on someone's profile, what is your first impression? — Amity
...it is healthy for the forum to not treat with privilige "long-term users" because that would be unfair. — javi2541997
It's not about bringing back banned members but re-imagining a better justice system.
Perhaps that's too difficult... — Amity
There's one exception I would probably be vocal in advocating for...
Heat of battle passion, when there is an active and ongoing global military conflict and the person is a relevant stakeholder in one or more sides and is thus no longer operating (arguing) from a reasonable and logical mindset as is intended for this forum, but is instead operating from fight or flight adrenaline and emotion as their life and everything and everyone in it could be severely impacted or killed as a result of said conflict being discussed.
That's what this last one was about, wasn't it? — Outlander
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