t's also interesting to me that most people's taste in music, film, clothing seems to ossify at a particular point in time. — Tom Storm
the 28 year-olds are laughing at the 22 year-old's musical taste, muttering about how music isn't what it used to be. — Tom Storm
YES, that's exactly what I'm trying to illustrate. Myself included, the only difference being that I'm (hopefully) aware of the phenomenon happening to me. — Noble Dust
24 (?) year old guy got hired and my other co-worker informed me that my musical choices "gave him anxiety". — Noble Dust
but I'm worried you're going to say Steely Dan... :wink: — Tom Storm
a market that demands what it has become accustomed to — Janus
I'm just curious about a fact that's obvious given but a moment's reflection - why are there no aesthetically-challenged female singers? — Agent Smith
No challenge is too great for the cosmetic industry, so there is no such thing as "aesthetically-challenged" — Metaphysician Undercover
think our perception of originality in music (or whatever art form) is often just a projection unto the external world of our own experience of being exposed to new music. As we age, new music or art seems less original because it doesn't match our past seminal experiences of newness. We tend to chase that first "hit" of a perception-altering musical or artistic experience in the same way an addict chases that first high. This leads to this sense of disillusionment that characterizes your commentary, I think. — Noble Dust
This is why the endless recycling of a style of painting produces increasingly weary, played-out emotions. The works become more and more mannered, self-conscious, calculated. — Joshs
Know any 1970 rock songs that duplicate the sounds of 1946?
Gotta admit to that myself. Band comes along, love their music for three or four albums….then they change style.
For re-inventing, probably can’t top the Beatles. Drippy girly AM pop in ‘63 to FM album Sgt Pepper in ‘67….massive musical offset. — Mww
I think our perception of originality in music (or whatever art form) is often just a projection unto the external world of our own experience of being exposed to new music. As we age, new music or art seems less original because it doesn't match our past seminal experiences of newness. We tend to chase that first "hit" of a perception-altering musical or artistic experience in the same way an addict chases that first high. This leads to this sense of disillusionment that characterizes your commentary, I think. — Noble Dust
“Know any 1970 rock songs that duplicate the sounds
of 1946?”
Crawling King Snake first recorded in 1941 by Big Joe Williams in 1941, and by the Doors in 1971. I believe many other examples can be found. I think you are over-simplifying and ignoring the revolution in innovative possibilities brought about by the electrification of instruments and the invention of the synthesizer. — Janus
Yes, sometimes changes are not for the better. I know people who can't stand the post OK Computer Radiohead (a band I think have been at least as innovative as the Beatles). — Janus
How many of the multiple comments on youtube 1960’s songs saying they wish they were alive in that era, that the music was much better then, come from people younger than 30? — Joshs
It was not the Beatles that were great, it was the era, the environment of frenetic experimentation, that produced greatness. — Joshs
I have 2 nieces in their teens and both of them told me that a lot of their favorite music is from the 1970’s and ‘80’s ( Queen, Fleetwood Mac, Billy Joel. Yech), and they are far from alone in their generation.
No, something else is going on here beside the rootedness of old-timers to what they grew up with. — Joshs
With the amount of data being provided by apps like Spotify and iTunes, along with the development of auto tune, it seems these days that song writing has become ever more of a formula/algorithm and singers are more often selected based on their physical attraction/charm or social standing rather than their raw singing ability.
Does this erode the natural basis for musical talent and authenticity? If anyone can now sing like a professional die to technology, and highly likeable songs are being mass produced like a high volume factory output, do we not see a diminishing impact for those that write songs from the soul, and sing because it's what they were born to do?
Is musical originality dying? Artists certainly are not as rare as they used to be. — Benj96
How many of the multiple comments on youtube 1960’s songs saying they wish they were alive in that era, that the music was much better then, come from people younger than 30?
— Joshs
How would you or I know? Youtube has been around for over 14 years; it's used by people of all ages. — Noble Dust
I'm thinking Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen, Lou Reed. — Jamal
could novelty, a novelty inherent in the object itself, ever be considered to be a coherent aspect of aesthetic judgement — Janus
Whoa! That’s Ken Kesey/ Merry Pransters kinda heavy, right there, insofar as both pro and con are in the same query: con…novelty isn’t in the object at all; pro….novelty is certainly an object of judgement.Boys and girls woulda had a blast with that one, methinks, trippin’ down the highway.
Still, things change. The hippies then for the rights of free spirit, the woke dipshits now for the pathologically stupid over-sensitivity regarding Ms. Green M&M’s wearin’ thigh-high boots.
(Sigh) — Mww
If anything, maybe we're kind of in agreement here; just that my idea of art form arcs doesn't seem to have taken hold with you or others (maybe it's crap, or maybe others haven't seen it yet). — Noble Dust
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