• Bug Biro
    46
    THE CANADIAN GRAND STRIKE
    OR
    A QUICK ADHERENCE TO DEMANDS OF NOBLE CHANGES

    PRIME DIRECTIVE gives unemployed Canadians fair payment. Cancels impediments and supports uprooting of crimeful communities.

    STEP #1:
    Most people within Canada quit their job simultaneously.

    STEP #2:
    the Canadian government is uncertain how to respond. Stands to lose money and cannot support its unemployed residents sufficiently. Reputation is at risk.

    STEP #3:
    Looting begins for both survival and criminal intent.

    STEP #4:
    An undetermined number of Canadians are killed during the criminal act of looting or other crimes.

    STEP #5:
    The Canadian government enacts the demands of its citizens or offers a separate concession of greater or equal potential for betterment.
  • Sir2u
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    OUR MAIN PROTEST: Give the unemployed fair pay that frees them from their imposed hardship and supports uproot of crime-filled communities.Bug Biro

    Why would people that are happily and profitably employed want to go on strike or quit their job to help the unemployed? Not many would be convinced to do so.

    STEP #1: Every person or most people from a city, a country, or across global landscapes quits their job simultaneously.Bug Biro

    Instant anarchy, many places would not survive 24 hours.

    STEP #2: The government panics, stands to lose tons of money and cannot support every unemployed person sufficiently.Bug Biro

    Governments would not lose anything except income and in most countries around the world they are NOT obliged to support the unemployed anyway. That only happens in some first world countries.

    STEP #3: Looting begins for both survival and criminal intent.

    STEP #4: An undetermined number of people are killed during the criminal act of looting or other crimes.
    Bug Biro

    Yep, you got that part right. all of those stupid people running out of the stores with giant TVs on their backs and the electricity will be cut of soon if it has not already gone.

    STEP #5: Government eventually caves into demands or must offer an alternate settlement of greater or equal potential for our betterment.Bug Biro

    Not going to happen. :worry: There will probably be no government after the first few days that could actually be capable of getting this done.
  • Bug Biro
    46
    Those are convincing arguments. I've edited my initial post to coincide with your information.

    Why would people that are happily and profitably employed want to go on strike or quit their job to help the unemployed?Sir2u

    Most people realize it is the right thing to do and will benefit the employed and unemployed. A transition from avoidance to empathy for people who obtain less money (slightly less in most cases). The notion people who budget less deserve comfort, a painfully obvious verdict, instils near-nationwide. Realized is the routine of bankruptcy equates to misery to impel employment. Workers and jobless, not one exists without the other. Function or crucible punishment, one appeal, one repulse, viewable options for the commonwealth. The ancient, absurd cycle of persuasion goes: "See this (operate)?", "See that (distress)?", "You can do this or do that." Bribes for people to enable politicians to conduct finance and maintain relevance. Years later (too late, perhaps) typically reveals an oft-rejected third option. Solitary.
  • javi2541997
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    Interesting and original post.

    To be honest, it is difficult to imagine a developed country such as Canada is the extreme situation of "everyone quitting their jobs" and "looting begins for both survival and criminal intent."
    There are other options to fix up the problems and situations. If you are Canadian, you are lucky to live in one of the best and most developed countries of the world.

    The Hispanic world is different and is not so far of what you proposed in your OP.
    Venezuela, Argentina, Perú, etc... you can see all of them are acting in similar ways of your arguments. Nonetheless, the situation is not changing at all, and even the context turned out worse than before. This happens because they are societies without a clear structure or democracy. Violence doesn't help to fixing anything.
  • Sir2u
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    Most people realize it is the right thing to do and will benefit the employed and unemployed.Bug Biro

    Maybe yes, most people do realize the best thing to do, but not many would actually act upon it.
    Look at the situation throughout the world, massive strikes are happening almost everywhere.

    I live in Honduras and the situation is almost the same here as in England although for different reasons maybe.
    The doctors and nurses go on strike and everyone bitches about how thoughtless the are. Transportation goes on strike and everyone bitches about how thoughtless they are.

    They cannot even get together and strike all at the same time.
  • javi2541997
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    I live in Honduras and the situation is almost the same here as in England although for different reasons maybe.
    The doctors and nurses go on strike and everyone bitches about how thoughtless the are. Transportation goes on strike and everyone bitches about how thoughtless they are.
    Sir2u

    Well, I think the huge difference between having strikes in Honduras and England is the fact that, in the latter the society still works and everything goes "correctly". It is not perfect the situation in England but at least there are not deficiencies towards the basic functionality of a state or community. Honduras (as the other countries of central America) has big problems... and they go further than just strikes.

    I wish you the best of living there. Probably, it is just my own negative prejudices but it seems that the situation in Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua, etc... is pretty f*cked up (sorry for using bad words)
  • Bug Biro
    46
    Maybe yes, most people do realize the best thing to do, but not many would actually act upon it.Sir2u

    To act creates better lives for themselves and fellow nationals, then ultimately, a better humanity. Idleness suggests a lack of caring for the well-being of future generations or our belief the government has our best interest in mind, which they do not. To not act builds suffering. Differences between First World nations and others are less corruption, less crime, and fewer wage discrepancies. Annulment of poor people, an escape from suffering, the more developed the country. Authorities circumvent equality. Most types of government keep rich people their richest and ease their minds of being surpassed or overthrown, of losing their money. Socialism cultivates our correspondence. A transition to communism further promotes. We emerge most equal, Utopia established.

    Philosophical speculates the present state of collective people, which denotes their future. What good when trajectory leads to dismal decimation without redirect weight? Failure to imagine droves of people insistent on ending strife for minorities, some who offend, is a shortsighted implication of forever corruption of our people. Dismissal routes not to continuative thought or inventiveness. An end to consideration is the typical path of people, tread less by philosophers. The inability of humans to improve existence is a nihilist claim and the belief of almost everyone. Philosophies should reveal knowledge unobvious. Where it stands, your position is both credible and counterproductive. Perpetuation of the generality of illogical humans is uninformative. Nihilism tends not to inspire.

    If you are Canadian, you are lucky to live in one of the best and most developed countries of the world.javi2541997

    The Canadian government is immersed in being one of the most progressive regimes by a slight margin, no more than that. Their intent is strictly to predict and retain power. Expect the First World to devolve, not prosper. Proliferation revolves around the idea that people deserve equality and to suffer is unnatural. Development of state preconditions downsizes for administrators and other prestigious people.

    Governments share with each other vast catalogued knowledge. Long ago, statistics verified what satisfies and what vandalizes civilizations. A nation advanced by prospect would seem surreal. Changes, deemed radical by us, would happen fast. Modifications people realize they would defend proudly. Readily-available resources would reveal and soon be attainable. Inventions of such great importance and enjoyment, people resent their concealment. Achievement in the lowest crime, hospitalization, and mortality rates ever. Vigorous pressure from people of outsider nations for their leaders to imitate.
  • Sir2u
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    Well, I think the huge difference between having strikes in Honduras and England is the fact that, in the latter the society still works and everything goes "correctly".javi2541997

    Maybe you could explain a bit more about what you consider to be "going correctly".

    I wish you the best of living there. Probably, it is just my own negative prejudices but it seems that the situation in Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua, etc... is pretty f*cked up (sorry for using bad words)javi2541997

    Well I have been around these parts since the 60's when I used to come and visit and lived here since the early 70's. I have never even considered going back to England to live, could not stand the place in '81 when I went for a week.
    We have problems here, and I hope that one day they will fix them. But most of the people are not actually involved in the problems even if they suffer from the consequences. There are murders, thefts, corruption, inflation, drug runners and addicts, homeless people and a lot of other bad things, just like in England. But the average person goes out to work for wages that do not meet the cost of living and try to live a reasonable life, just like in England.
    There are some differences though.
    There is only one language used here, if you do not learn Spanish you will have a hard time. No one is going to bend over backwards to try to make your live easy for you if you plan on living here. Lots of people do speak English, but if you want to be called Honduran you speak Spanish. How's that going in England now?
  • javi2541997
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    I am not living in England because I am from Spain and I live in Madrid. As a first glance, it seems that UK is having some trouble related to inflation and strikes, but I guess it is not tragic. We also have those problems too so I think is a worldwide issue.

    It is interesting your view of living in a country such as Honduras. As you already guessed, there is an important community of Hondurans living in Spain. They say that they emigrated here due to social and security issues. It is obvious that Spain is not a paradise but at least they value the peace and calm in the streets.

    On the other hand, I am agree with you in the fact that many social issues of Honduras are also in Spain such as drug trafficking or unemployment. Nonetheless, I still see the violence as a big issue in Latin America. According to many scientific journals, sources and researchers, Honduras is the most violent country of the world...
  • LancelotFreeman
    14
    Is there any actual historical event of every person in a country quitting their job in the same day? Serious question, and why would most cities not survive 24 hours because of that?
  • Bug Biro
    46
    There will probably be no government after the first few days that could actually be capable of getting this done.Sir2u

    Regarding your response to STEP #5 of my original post, doubtful any government would resign its rulership over legions because citizens, domestically or worldwide, launched the Grand Strike. For most homelands, in place of political vacate, sizeable protest is liable to close from commons fiercely defeated by police and soldiers. Countries with heightened sympathies ostensible between populace and leaders, colossal refusal to work apt to end not from climactic or persistent bloodshed.

    Post edits, my appraisal of duration from STEP #1 to STEP #5 is two weeks, give or take a few days. Granted outlets inform of starving Canadians, shortly after testimonies, decision-makers in Canada ought to draw on the decrees of their populace or acquiesce to compromise. No accommodations portend unheard-of reprimand of Canadian officials from rustic and foreigners. Near-global despondency of humankind is feasible if a government, seemingly known for the most favourable gathering of bureaucrats, publicly denies its people welfare. Disheartened proletariat turn volatile, finical to manage.
  • Sir2u
    3.5k
    It is interesting your view of living in a country such as Honduras. As you already guessed, there is an important community of Hondurans living in Spain. They say that they emigrated here due to social and security issues. It is obvious that Spain is not a paradise but at least they value the peace and calm in the streets.javi2541997

    Yes, I know quite a few of the people that have gone there to live, and not many of them were actually affected in a direct way by the violence. They sometimes lived in areas that were violent but that was good enough to convince the immigration of some countries to let them in. My wife has quite a few friends and family members that moved there.

    But how is it going over there with the none Spanish speaking immigrants? Are they adapting to Spanish life OR are they adapting Spain to their ways? There are "supposedly" places in England where shari laws take preference. If that is so, why did they want to leave their place of origin?

    We were the most violent place on earth for a few years, and I work in the most violent city for more than 20 years. But i never saw a bomb go off because of so stupid terrorist saying his religion is better than other peoples.
  • Sir2u
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    Is there any actual historical event of every person in a country quitting their job in the same day?LancelotFreeman

    I have never heard of one, but the imagination of the OP seems to think that it would be a good idea.

    Serious question, and why would most cities not survive 24 hours because of that?LancelotFreeman
    You probable live in a reasonable accessible and well supplied city, But how long do you think the stocks in the supermarket would last if the transport works went on strike? Most major supers and gas stations get supplied daily or at least 2 times a week. Once everyone knows there will be no deliveries for a few days there will be mass buying until everything runs out. What happens then?

    Maybe 24 hours is a bit exaggerated, but not so much in a country where nearly everyone gets their food on a day to day basis.
  • javi2541997
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    But how is it going over there with the none Spanish speaking immigrants? Are they adapting to Spanish life OR are they adapting Spain to their ways? There are "supposedly" places in England where shari laws take preference. If that is so, why did they want to leave their place of origin?Sir2u

    Those are good questions.

    To make a good answer to your enquiries, I think I have to separate every none Spanish speaking immigrant in different groups. Chinese citizens are well integrated and they speak Spanish so fluently. Most of the kids of the Chinese who came to Spain more than 10 years ago, are now in school or even in university. So, there is not a big deal or a problem regarding Asian immigration.
    In the other hand, immigrants from Africa or Muslim countries are a different scenario. They do not speak Spanish and they do not get involved in the society. A tough barrier is religion and due to this culture cliché they tend to live isolated from the rest... in "ghettos" or neighbourhoods separated from the Spaniards or other immigrants.
  • LancelotFreeman
    14
    I generally agree with you, i live in the smallest capital city of my province in my country i was just being a stickler about the 24 hour thing, but being on an island we've had problems with food and shipping many times and have been fine but again this is just 120,000 people out of 500,000+ in the whole province.
  • Sir2u
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    Going back to an earlier post, I mentioned that when one group goes on strike, the rest bitch about them.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/21234340/parents-teacher-strike-schools-closed-last-minute/

    Not the greatest of info sources, but it makes a point.
  • javi2541997
    5.9k
    Going back to an earlier post, I mentioned that when one group goes on strike, the rest bitch about them.Sir2u

    This situation always happens. I guess is due to lack of collectively culture. We are living in a individualistic and selfish period where most of the citizens only care about their own problems and avoid to make groups or masses with the aim to change the circumstances.
  • Sir2u
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    STEP #1:
    Most people within Canada quit their job simultaneously.
    Bug Biro

    Why would people that are happily and profitably employed want to go on strike or quit their job to help the unemployed? Not many would be convinced to do so.Sir2u

    This situation always happens. I guess is due to lack of collectively culture. We are living in a individualistic and selfish period where most of the citizens only care about their own problems and avoid to make groups or masses with the aim to change the circumstances.javi2541997

    We agree then, and I serious doubt that any country not motivated by external threat would be likely to pull together in such a way.
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