Let me ask you a question to the sceptical aspect of your reasoning which I assume you do not preclude the existence of a diety or a higher power… — invicta
Would I believe god exists because I prayed to win the national lottery and then I won it that very day!As a purely hypothetical scenario let’s say you decided to purchase a lottery ticket and said to yourself, your conscience whatever …if you do exist Mr God…let all these numbers that I’ve picked come up on the next draw…would you believe then or would you simply ascribe it to some freaky mathematical probability? — invicta
So what would constitute proof to you then? It seems to me that nothing would as you’ve completely ruled out the existence of such a thing — invicta
Oh I have went far further in my personal challenged to god when debating with theists.Imagine if you had dropped dead there for a second — invicta
Yes, you have no evidence!!!!!Does it negate it in any way shape or form? — invicta
Are you unable to get your 'experiences' to affect me in anyway? — universeness
Possibly a charlatan and probably meet him with the same disbelief as yourself. — invicta
Anyway there’s a horse at 16:25 at Wolverhampton called Dew you believe at 6/1
Cheeky 5er for your lack of faith ? — invicta
BTW I am not Dewish and I don't believe, at any favourable odds.Dew you believe at 6/1 — invicta
As a philosopher how do you reconcile these two seemingly contradictory notions of being given existence but only for a limited time? Does it not sometimes make one feel powerless or at worst nihilistic in the face of it? — invicta
As far as I can remember, I personally have never felt powerless from that aspect. I don't remember ever wanting to live for eternity, i.e. to be immortal, like e.g. an angel or a god. And certainly not a vampire! :grin:how do you reconcile these two seemingly contradictory notions of being given existence but only for a limited time? Does it not sometimes make one feel powerless or at worst nihilistic in the face of it? — invicta
As far as I can remember, I personally have never felt powerless from that aspect. I don't remember ever wanting to live for eternity, i.e. to be immortal, like e.g. an angel or a god. And certainly not a vampire! :grin: — Alkis Piskas
Maybe I don't really wanna know
How your garden grows
'Cause I just wanna fly
Lately, did you ever feel the pain
In the morning rain
As it soaks you to the bone?
Maybe I just wanna fly
Wanna live, I don't wanna die
Maybe I just wanna breathe
Maybe I just don't believe
Maybe you're the same as me
We see things they'll never see
You and I are gonna live forever
I said maybe I don't really wanna know
How your garden grows
'Cause I just wanna fly
Lately, did you ever feel the pain
In the morning rain
As it soaks you to the bone?
Maybe I will never be
All the things that I wanna be
Now is not the time to cry
Now's the time to find out why
I think you're the same as me
We see things they'll never see
You and I are gonna live forever
Maybe I don't really wanna know
How your garden grows
'Cause I just wanna fly
Lately, did you ever feel the pain
In the morning rain
As it soaks you to the bone?
Maybe I just wanna fly
Wanna live, I don't wanna die
Maybe I just wanna breathe
Maybe I just don't believe
Maybe you're the same as me
We see things they'll never see
You and I are gonna live forever
I'm sorry if the words "vanity" and "foolishness" offended you. They came out of me spontaneously, since I know well that most people in here and elsewhere believe that they are bodies and thinking that a body can survive forever is just absurd.There’s nothing vain about wanting to live forever to me it’s a fundamental right as a sentient being and not selfish at all. — invicta
Now, since you speak about divinity, and you are not constricted to the material part of you, I strongly believe that we are eternal beings. I hope that at least this might make you feel more comfortable. And of because not because I believe it. It is believed maybe by the most part of the planet, esp. the Eastern world.That is if my sentience was granted by the divine. — invicta
Yes, I believe that someone wanting to live a long life --90, 100 and more-- is a trait of vanity. My aunt died at 102 and even in her 90s she could really accept that she "got old". She was hidding her age by 7 years and she even threw out her ID card and torne out the first page of her passportm for not letting people know her real age. She was a very vain woman in general.You could say a mortal wanting to live a long life like in their 80s etc is also vain, which is not btw. The difference between the two is one of scale with the other end of it being forever. — invicta
As a philosopher how do you reconcile these two seemingly contradictory notions of being given existence but only for a limited time? Does it not sometimes make one feel powerless or at worst nihilistic in the face of it? — invicta
I'm sorry if the words "vanity" and "foolishness" offended you. — Alkis Piskas
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