I remember when establishment supporters swore he was a treasonous, Russian asset, and now this ... — NOS4A2
I don’t know nor care about the details. — NOS4A2
I’ve pored through the details in the Russia case and many others, and the conspiracy theories are just as bunk now as they were then. — NOS4A2
You can go back to any page in this thread to confirm that. — NOS4A2
I honestly don’t care because everything to the anti-Trump brigade is a serious matter until one looks closely. Every conspiracy theory regarding Trump, whether it was Russia collusion or his tax returns, have been massively and comically overstated, and as a result has turned justice into nonsense, journalism into a joke, politics into circuses, and the US into clown world.
It’s gotten so bad that one can adopt a contrary belief without any evidence to do so and he’ll be right most of the time. — NOS4A2
Who cares? After years of Russia collusion, Covid propaganda, Ukraine warmongering, January 6th handwringings, and all the deep-state dinner theater news outlets have spoon-fed us these past few years, — NOS4A2
Oh dear. You can curate and string together as many of my quotes as you wish and give yourself exactly the story you want to hear. It’s a telling habit. Still, two impeachments, dozens and dozens of investigations, and here you are empty handed with nothing to show for the wasted efforts, tax dollars, and time you’ve spent as a true believer. — NOS4A2
There is plenty of evidence that Trump was and is a Russian asset. — Fooloso4
He staffed his administration with anti-Russian and anti-Iranian hawks like Jim Mattis, Mike Pompeo and Jeff Sessions, and made noise about upgrading and expanding U.S. nuclear capability, a sharp break from the rhetoric of previous administrations. Just days into his presidency, he phoned Putin and trashed the 2010 New Start nuclear arms control treaty, claiming that he wouldn’t renew it. It would later come out that Trump rejected the Kremlin’s offer of full normalization of relations.
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April 2017 saw Tillerson visit Moscow for the first time. It was a disaster for renewing the countries’ relationship, with Tillerson and his Russian counterpart sniping at each other at the press conference, largely due to tension over Trump’s airstrike in Syria earlier that month. CNN noted Trump’s honeymoon with the country was markedly shorter than those of previous presidents. — https://inthesetimes.com/article/media-russia-russiagate-trump-putin-rachel-maddow-msnbc
The downing of the Su-22 threatened to bring Washington and Moscow into conflict in the war-torn country. In the aftermath of the incident, Russia announced the end of deconfliction arrangements with U.S. forces and that it had decided to treat future U.S. flights west of the Euphrates River as hostile. — https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/06/26/trump-is-tripping-over-iran-and-russias-red-lines-in-syria/
President Trump took his agenda promoting what he calls American “energy dominance” on the road at the outset of his second foreign trip, with a pitch for Europe to buy America’s abundant natural gas.
The message offers a direct challenge to Russian President Vladimir Putin — whose country supplies much of Europe with natural gas — https://time.com/4846889/trump-putin-g20-natural-gas/
Did you really think he was a one man show? — Isaac
I don't see any cause to hope. If he goes away he'll be replaced by an identical figurehead with an identical agenda. — Isaac
If you give someone money and they do with it what they want it’s your fault for giving them money. — NOS4A2
I’m not confident he will be convicted or not because the entire system is stacked against someone like Trump — NOS4A2
I am suspicious of the system and anyone who earns a living from it. — NOS4A2
The state is only after protecting its own interests and Trump goes against those interests. — NOS4A2
except that he did away with what Arthur Miller described as executive tailoring, which is almost prerequisite in Washington. — NOS4A2
In historical terms he is either a folk devil or folk hero depending on where one’s allegiance lie. — NOS4A2
For it is one of the most admirable qualities of the demagogue that he forces men to think
Demagogues probably first fell into disrepute in the 19th century, when most of them were socialists.
And this appeal can be made most effectively by the demagogue--the rough, unpolished man of the people, who can present the truth in simple, effective, yes emotional, language.
There is plenty of evidence that Trump was and is a Russian asset. — Fooloso4
but the whole 'president-installed-by-foreign-evil-dictator-to-do-secret-bidding-says-spy' is just your run-of-the-mill, bona fide goings on. You'd have to be some kind of 'extremist' no doubt to not believe such a plausible story. — Isaac
Manages to sow enough confusion and dissent to be able to invade neighbouring country unopposed — unenlightened
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