• Jack Cummins
    5.3k

    I just hope that he is okay. I know that you say that there are many social clubs, but today I tried to join art groups in the local library where I have moved to and, I was turned away because they were oversubscribed. All, I could do after joining the library, was get out books and found myself looking at the philosophy section, as if I don't have enough books. So, many of us are thrown back alone, with nothing more than online interaction. I am sure that Agent Smith would not wish for a lengthy postmortem on his future, but l just hope that he doesn't just see this banning as 'failure' and finds new openings for his expression of ideas, online, or in real life. It is likely that many here will remember his presence and I certainly valued his contributions.
  • 180 Proof
    15.4k
    Is the banning of Agent Smith permanent?

    (No implicit criticism intended by this question.)
  • Jamal
    9.7k


    The policy is that bans are permanent. There has been only one exception that I can recall. If you’re asking if the platform allows a ban to be reversed, yes it does, because bans do not actually delete the user account.

    We introduced temporary suspensions about a year ago. Agent Smith was suspended for a week, then again for two weeks, and lastly for three weeks, the reasons being explained to him at length in private messages. He was told that the third suspension would be the last and that the same posting behaviour thereafter would result in a ban.
  • BC
    13.6k
    many users on the site are alone in roomsJack Cummins

    One of the basic building blocks of human experience is loneliness. It is common and it is painful.

    What good is sitting
    Alone in your room?
    Come hear the music play
    Life is a cabaret, old chum
    Come to the cabaret

    I've done that often enough -- if one can call a run of the mill gay bar a "cabaret". It can help for a while, unless the bar's atmosphere is condensed alienation -- in which case, flee.

    I didn't think Smith was a problem -- he didn't bother me.
  • Jamal
    9.7k
    I didn't think Smith was a problem -- he didn't bother meBC

    Note that the majority of his posts and discussions were deleted, so most people never saw them.
  • 180 Proof
    15.4k
    Thanks for the info. :up:
  • L'éléphant
    1.6k
    In the spirit of tradition, I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.
  • Baden
    16.3k
    @green flag was banned for being returning banned member @Hoo.
  • jgill
    3.9k
    green flag was banned for being returning banned member Hoo.Baden

    That's a surprise. I would have guessed someone more recent.
  • Baden
    16.3k


    Well, Inspector @Wayfarer worked it out. I had no idea.
  • jgill
    3.9k
    Well, Inspector Wayfarer worked it out. I had no ideaBaden

    Kudos to the man down under. :cool:
  • Wayfarer
    22.5k
    I would have guessed someone more recent.jgill

    This member has joined numerous times under different IDs. 'Hoo' was one I could remember, so I looked up the member info for that name and found he had been banned. As a Mod, I was then duty bound to act - which I took no joy in. But rules are rules.
  • jgill
    3.9k


    What surprises me is the person I have in mind has a graduate degree in physics and has reappeared on several occasions in various lively personas. Not a math person like me. Oh well. Good work, Inspector.
  • Baden
    16.3k
    FWIW I was enjoying green flag's contributions but bans are permanent so while mere sockpuppetry might not result in an immediate ban, rejoining after being banned will.
  • Moliere
    4.7k
    Yeh I was bummed upon reading that one.

    We had a really good conversation on something I hardly ever get to really think about here.
  • Baden
    16.3k
    the person I have in mind has a graduate degree in physics and has reappeared on several occasions in various lively personasjgill

    You know just from the style of writing or?
  • Baden
    16.3k


    Yeah, he had some interesting angles going, so it is a pity.
  • jgill
    3.9k


    Personal correspondence. I was convinced of his credentials. But I could have been mistaken. He was from the Netherlands.
  • Wayfarer
    22.5k
    Different guy. American.
  • Jamal
    9.7k
    I’m upset about this because they gave my posts several approving replies and thumbs-up.

    Looks like the original @Hoo was banned seven years ago, in our first year, but I see no problems with their posts and can’t see any mod discussion about banning them.

    Mysterious and unfortunate.
  • Baden
    16.3k


    Hoo had over 20 sockpuppets though. Some of them are probably mentioned somewhere.
  • Jamal
    9.7k
    I’m curious about the original crime.
  • Baden
    16.3k


    Well, that is mysterious. Hoo was the first to be banned and I don't know how many of the rest were banned just for sockpuppetry.
  • Moliere
    4.7k
    That's what I was looking for and saw nothing, but I'm lazy.

    I'll just say I would be fine with un-banning the member for now? Unless?
  • Ø implies everything
    252
    @Wayfarer Are IDs generated by the email account used to sign-up with? If so, cannot email accounts be automatically blocked? In any case, banned IDs could be blocked, right? Or at least, there could be an automatic detection of the IDs?
  • Baden
    16.3k


    Not knowing why he was banned isn't a justification in itself for unbanning.
  • Baden
    16.3k
    E.g. Banworthy posts may have been deleted. It may have been due to objectionable pms or some other reason. In fact, just having so many sockpuppets could get someone banned.
  • Moliere
    4.7k
    Fair.

    I'll accept the decision either way, of course. I don't want the responsibility.

    Only mentioning thoughts.
  • Baden
    16.3k


    So far, as far as I'm concerned there's no issue over the decision, returning banned members get rebanned. Otherwise, why ban anyone? The fact we both liked his present incarnation is irrelevant. Having said that, I am also curious because none of his sockpuppets I've checked so far seem to have written anything objectionable either.

    I'm done sleuthing though. If someone else wants to look for evidence he was originally banned by mistake or whatever, feel free.
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