The author thinks that Heidi himself believed such scribblings to be part of his oeuvre, and that his previously published work was "sanitized" in some cases by fans — Ciceronianus
There is a direct connection between his concept of time and his acceptance of Nazism and its atrocities. He called it "hearkening to Being". — Fooloso4
I think this was located in Arbeit macht frei. — Tom Storm
Is there a connection between temporality and the Nazisms? Is it not what the future brought forth? Is it not something es gibt? — Fooloso4
:fire:There is a direct connection between his concept of time and his acceptance of Nazism and its atrocities. He called it "hearkening to Being". — Fooloso4
Agreed, as I advocated on an old thread ...Being and Time should be read by all serious students of philosophy and is worthy of being course subject matter. — Arne
Certainly in Freddy Zarathustra's sense, "serious students of philosophy" ought to study intellectual diseases (e.g. Heidi, p0m0, woo-woo, etc) in order to learn how to, like surgeons (Rosset), incisively diagnose and excise cultural illness (e.g. decadence, resentment, nationalism, antisemitism, historicism / utopianism / eschatology, etc). :mask:I've been grateful to Heidegger, nonetheless, since my earliest philosophical studies in the late '70s for his monumental oeuvre as a/the paragon of how NOT to philosophize - or think-live philosophically (as Arendt points out) - as manifest by the generations of heideggerian obscurant sophists (i.e. p0m0s e.g. Derrida, Baudrillard, Lyotard, Rorty et al) who've come and gone in and out of academic & litcrit fashion since the 1950s ... — 180 Proof
'Don't nazis suck' is just too easy to say. Of course they suck. It's the most banal self-flattery that I can think of. If you think even Heidegger's early work is contaminated, make a case. Or just air a petty prejudice as if you are paying alms. The world is running low on reasons not to read, not to think. Let's burn some books for Jesus and Apple Pie, boys ! — plaque flag
The Nazi connection is just a convenient post-hoc justification. — Joshs
Frankly, I find this kind of thing childish. — plaque flag
An evasive response. All this was discussed earlier. I won't repeat it. Heidegger sings a siren song, the dark side of Doris Day, Que sera, sera, whatever will be will be. It is the acceptance of a future that was ours to see. — Fooloso4
The work doesn't need me to defend it though — plaque flag
I think a case was made, which goes something like this: — Joshs
The world is running low on reasons not to read, not to think. Let's burn some books for Jesus and Apple Pie, boys ! — plaque flag
Do you have to be a good person to be a good philosopher? — Arne
The Socratic philosopher's concern is first and foremost the human things, the inquiry into the just, the beautiful or noble, and the good.
Heidegger's concern is first and foremost Being. — Fooloso4
That depends on what you take the practice of philosophy to be about. — Fooloso4
Are you suggesting that there are definitions of philosophy ... — Arne
...the practice of which would require one to be a good person? — Arne
And is a focus upon being somehow outside the realm of the "Socratics?" Certainly Plato had his ontology. — Arne
Would one have to be just in order to inquire in to "justice?" — Arne
I suspect many who condemned Socrates to death sincerely considered themselves just and were considered by many fellow Athenians to be so. — Arne
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Is there a concern for the human things in this more originary thinking? Where do we see it? — Fooloso4
:up:Heidegger’s concern is to uncover the presuppositions... — Joshs
I suspect many who condemned Socrates to death sincerely considered themselves just and were considered by many fellow Athenians to be so. — Arne
Yes, indeed. And many can mouth the words 'justice' and 'truth' without caring much for — plaque flag
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