I find your suggestion that theistic beliefs only ever result is such benign actions, as attending a church, almost comedic, in it's naivete.
My main point was that I do really care about what other people think, as it influences the actions they take, very strongly, and that has a direct affect on the type of society humans currently have to live under. — universeness
If you think it leads to maleficent actions in the majority of cases then I would say it is you that is naive and/or ideologically driven in your thinking. — Janus
As to not caring about what others think of my viewpoints, I don't think I am anywhere near alone there — Janus
My responses to you on this exchange were not targeted at you. You are already fully cooked.Please do yourself a favour and don't waste any more time on this, you started out off the mark with your purportedly "constructive criticism" and don't seem to have gotten any closer to it along the way. — Janus
Apparently I misunderstood you then; my apologies. — Janus
A world where suffering and hardship is supposed to be part of the cosmic game but is beyond the understanding of its participants, is not beautiful, perfect, or good. At best it’s as indifferent and amoral as a Cthulhu. Possibly unable to make much more than a suffering world. At worst, he wants this scenario. Is an entity that uses people thus good because it is godly to want to see people suffer? Even worse is the notion that the world could be worse and we should be thankful our world wasn’t made in an even more suffering version. Everything about it is suspect.
In an inversion of our norm, if humans are the cruelest animal because we know what we do, and do it anyway, how much more so is something infinitely more knowing? Again, if there is one, signs point to a cosmically indifferent Cthulhu perhaps. — schopenhauer1
Yaldabaoth, the flawed creator of a flawed creation? — Janus
As to not caring about what others think of my viewpoints, I don't think I am anywhere near alone there. In all my time on these forums i have rarely seen anyone change their views on account of a counterargument. — Janus
is a given. It's a possible, even reasonable, attitude, but other attitudes are also possible and reasonable.A world where suffering and hardship is supposed to be part of the cosmic game but is beyond the understanding of its participants, is not beautiful, perfect, or good. — schopenhauer1
is a given. It's a possible, even reasonable, attitude, but other attitudes are also possible and reasonable.
That's basically all I've been saying/ — Janus
No, I don't think you do because you are cutting out the rest of my quote — schopenhauer1
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