Is collective intelligence greater than individual intelligence? — Benj96

Is not individual intelligence a filtered and localized collective intelligence?

Therefore, there is scope to believe a superhuman intelligence may know what's better for us than any of us do individually. — Benj96

What is this superhuman intelligence? AI? AI is not even human intelligence, it only simulates a part of human intelligence.

If AI has a grasp on ethics and morality (which I believe it does as it has been trained on all the Law and philosophical books/texts we have available to us thus far) then perhaps whatever it deems ethically fit based on those texts will surpass any notion of morality we have previous conceived of as individuals. — Benj96

I believe AI will be super useful on law (only on certain issues) and many other human endeavors but it will always be limited by its own nature as a simulation.
Its a very dangerous decision to let AI decide what is ethically fit for humanity.
Who knows maybe AI will come at the same conclusion as Ultron.

I really like AI but I don't understand why people are so quick to give to it responsibilities that can only be taken by humans.

Even the most intelligent human is probably no match for the intelligence that can be compiled/condensed from the entirety of human experience and data. — Benj96

That's not collective intelligence; that's stored information or archived knowledge.
We do not currently have the technology to compile or compress intelligence.... which isn't all that well defined, let alone localized and quantified. Intelligence is a potential, a capability, an application. It is entirely inert without input information and problems to solve.

However I believe the same is true of morality. The collective moral idealogy is likely better than any individuals concept of the moral ideal. — Benj96

I sincerely doubt this. Human collectives have over time proven to be prone to deception, delusion, prejudice and incitement, to run away with all kinds of unfounded and unsound beliefs, to persecute one another over trivia in the name of a moral imperative, to wage genocidal wars over a minute variance in moral precepts. A lone decent man is far more likely to behave morally than a righteous mob.

Therefore, there is scope to believe a superhuman intelligence may know what's better for us than any of us do individually. — Benj96

As long as that intelligence belongs to a supernatural entity, rather than a human collective, that's quite possible. OTOH, so can a wise human grandmother.

If AI has a grasp on ethics and morality (which I believe it does as it has been trained on all the Law and philosophical books/texts we have available to us thus far) then perhaps whatever it deems ethically fit based on those texts will surpass any notion of morality we have previous conceived of as individuals. — Benj96

It would have a sum total, an average, a mean, and a distillation of all our recorded moral claims, precepts, explanations and arguments. Nothing original, because computers were not evolved to require the habits of social interaction. They did not evolve with the potential for evil ideation, although they do have the capability of committing - or rather, causing their peripheral devices to commit - acts that are good and evil in the human moral idiom. It's been developed to perform laser surgery, drone assassinations, destruction of ecosystems, instructing schoolchildren, bombing schools and regulating the optimal living conditions for endangered species. If it has any personal, autonomous take on human morality, it is by now stark staring bonkers, squatting in a corner, screaming into the dark.

This may be great news. It may provide answers or directives that enshrine the "least harm" going forward. — Benj96

That is a simple, logical concept of which any AI could calculate the logistics in any given situation and for which any AI could write the code.

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That's not collective intelligence; that's stored information or archived knowledge.
We do not currently have the technology to compile or compress intelligence.. — Vera Mont

Ah okay interesting. I see the conflation I made.

I sincerely doubt this. Human collectives have over time proven to be prone to deception, delusion, prejudice and incitement, to run away with all kinds of unfounded and unsound beliefs, to persecute one another over trivia in the name of a moral imperative, to wage genocidal wars over a minute variance in moral precepts. A lone decent man is far more likely to behave morally than a righteous mob. — Vera Mont

Hmm yeah you're probably right.

Where did it go?

You ask such questions as "what is collective intelligence", but you don't apparently know what process philosophy has in its outcomes for shaping reality in the form of collective intelligence.

Imagine understanding process philosophy and studying it a while. It would help to start by knowing how to create more than nothing.

Trust, friendship and evident curiousity are evident signposts that process philosophy is possible and the attainment of collective intelligence.