we're talking about human females and not zebra females — Heister Eggcart
If Herr Heister Eggcart can't know that all human life isn't worth the suffering, then by extension I would assume that Monsieur Agustino can't know that human life IS worth the suffering. — Bitter Crank
There was a popular pre-WWII eastern European group of female performers whose nightclub act featured their appearing totally nude, except for paper mache zebra heads and black hooves. Sometimes stripes of black and white paint were cleverly applied to their luscious bodies. They would run around the nightclub, whinnying, tastefully titillating the men, emphasis on tits, undoing bits of men's clothing, and such frivolities.
You might have been discussing whether their lives were worth living. — Bitter Crank
If you don't care for one actual wretched woman in Moline, how can you care about the abstraction of "the human race as a whole"? — Bitter Crank
I think what you say here is pretty weak. What River said is not "creepy" at all, just the (apparently) honest statement of someone who doesn't want to offer sex to another in any context where there is no emotional commitment. I'd say that's healthy rather than creepy. It's more creepy to treat others' bodies as potential "amusement parks". — John
You think I'd give it away for free?" :by this I obviously mean sex, no emotional connection whatsoever.
"Marriage is a wonderful institution" :by this I mean marriage including sex and an emotional level. However, I was being a tad sarcastic — River
Did I misunderstand? If I did I apologize. I thought you were referring to selling physical and emotional intimacy rather than giving it away for free. Marriage as an economic transaction. Commitment for sex. If that's what you meant, I stand by creepy. If not, I retract the post. — T Clark
And so now a diversion into the wisdom of affirmative action? Nothing I've said hinted at whether affirmative action programs were morally, Constitutionally, or pragmatically sound. What I pointed to was the injustice of discrimination, not to whether our legislatures have properly addressed the evil.
Regardless, it is likely we share the same conclusions on this subject, but I'd suspect for differing reasons because I tend to look at law very pragmatically, and I see such programs as offering little good and usually to those least needy, but all of this is a major degression and topic shift. — Hanover
You're right, if you read my posts, you'd see I've already acted in this manner.If Herr Heister Eggcart can't know that all human life isn't worth the suffering, then by extension I would assume that Monsieur Agustino can't know that human life IS worth the suffering. — Bitter Crank
Is life on earth worth the suffering? — T Clark
I wouldn't claim to know the answer to that. — Agustino
:s This is just false. I have a lot of respect for women, there's no problem there.Perhaps I wouldn't have misunderstood if you had not been conversing with Agustino, who is not shy about expressing his disrespect for women. — T Clark
This is just false. I have a lot of respect for women, there's no problem there. — Agustino
And I don't think you should be the one telling me anything about disrespect to women, granted that you've probably disrespected every single woman in this thread, by assuming the worst about them, not reading their comments properly and so on. Really, it's quite pathetic. You're the one talking about respecting women, when lo and behold, you've probably been the absolute worst at it in this entire thread. — Agustino
Why would I be outraged? :sYour outrage is hollow. — T Clark
I'm just stating a simple fact that you've been the most disrespectful in here to pretty much all the women in this thread, calling their thoughts creepy (multiple times, by the way, and to multiple women), shouting rhetorical and imbecile question at them like "Are you married? Do you have a wife? A sister?", telling them that from your precious experience what they say comes from people who don't like women very much and other such bullshit. Really, if you want to know the truth, I think you should be ashamed of your behaviour, and the fact you don't even admit to it doesn't do you much good.Please elucidate, specifically, how I have "disrespected every single woman in this thread." Checking my posts, I can't find anything. Or are you counting the times I assumed that women were men? That was presumptuous on my part, and I think it reflects an unexamined bias. I don't see how that makes it disrespectful. My mistakes didn't change the substance of my posts. — T Clark
I'm just stating a simple fact that you've been the most disrespectful in here to pretty much all the women in this thread, calling their thoughts creepy (multiple times, by the way, and to multiple women), shouting rhetorical and imbecile question at them like "Are you married? Do you have a wife? A sister?", telling them that from your precious experience what they say comes from people who don't like women very much and other such bullshit. Really, if you want to know the truth, I think you should be ashamed of your behaviour, and the fact you don't even admit to it doesn't do you much good. — Agustino
Given the kind of judgement you've shown in this thread, I think it's quite safe to say you're absolutely wrong, and the worst bit is that you don't even know it. Your self-righteous attitude does nothing except prove this even more.You sound kind of outraged to me. Although it seems like a kind of empty, rhetorical outrage to distract from the fact that you don't have anything substantive to offer. — T Clark
All this talking about women this and women think that and woman behave such and such. All coming from men. — TimeLine
As an authority on the subject of women, I can assure you that we are different from one another and any attempt to rationalise gender-bias particularly through evolutionary or biological differences uncovers more about you as a person. — TimeLine
The act of submission and domination is psychological and gender is irrelevant. — TimeLine
A 'relationship' is the dominating force; a dialectic or struggle whether individuals or socially since what we psychological experience moves outside of the human mind and projects objectively to external objects and interactions we have with others. — TimeLine
If you are submissive or dominating, you choose to be — TimeLine
The acceptance of our separateness or individuality (self-consciousness) in a Hegelian sense prevents unhealthy relationships both individually and socially, which is why I have never submitted neither can anyone dominate me because I have never trusted neither loved anyone enough. — TimeLine
TimeLine's posts always read like they were generated with a POMO-essay generator, like this one. A bunch of writing which has no beginning, no middle, and no end, much like a tale told by an idiot - full of sound and fury, signifying NOTHING! Damn Shakespeare, he knew it all along >:O????????? — Heister Eggcart
All this talking about women this and women think that and woman behave such and such. All coming from men.
Telling. — TimeLine
As an authority on the subject of women, I can assure you that we are different from one another and any attempt to rationalise gender-bias particularly through evolutionary or biological differences uncovers more about you as a person. — TimeLine
The anxiety of losing control provokes measures that seek domination of another and enables a masking of this powerlessness, conversely and likewise such submission to a dominant force is born from the same anxiety but respond by transferring control. — TimeLine
Speaking for myself, most of my posts have been about what is and what is not respectful to women. You are no more qualified to address that than I am. — T Clark
I have no problem with your posts, but as you can see from those two morons you continue to try and rationalise with and who merely exemplify the point I was attempting to make about abusive/dominating characteristics stemming from psychopathology, I do wonder why you bother. All women are all different so there is no gender in the subject and its relevance is farcical. — TimeLine
>:O LOL poor TimeLine, I think she's a good person at heart, but it's just that arrogance and pride blind her from being more compassionate.Deleted — Heister Eggcart
And at one and the same time you lack self motivation. Something ain't adding up.I'm a high-energy, aggressive, impetuous, competitive person. — T Clark
Ooooh, the wisdom!The only thing better than a good idea is a bad idea. — T Clark
Riiiiight, it's all about the propaganda! >:OIt isn't the truth that matters, it's what we can convince people of. — T Clark
And at one and the same time you lack self motivation. Something ain't adding up. — Agustino
Ooooh, the wisdom! — Agustino
Riiiiight, it's all about the propaganda! — Agustino
That is just like barking back at a dog and trying to justify why you would do that. — TimeLine
I thought of a fourth reason - it's fun. — T Clark
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