1). Let's assume that reality is ordered - consistent. Governed by laws and constants. (objective).
2). Lets also assume that the mind can perceive reality, receive data or input from it and store that data. — Benj96
1). Let's assume that reality is ordered - consistent. Governed by laws and constants. (objective). — Benj96
2). Lets also assume that the mind can perceive reality, receive data or input from it and store that data. — Benj96
3). Finally, let's assume that the mind can store said data in any number of relationships/associations with one another. — Benj96
It can create an internal structure or "operative paradigm" to any "nth degree" of accordance or discordance with reality as it actually is — Benj96
in that sentence. I see normally functioning minds at any level of complexity creating internal models of reality according to which they make decision regarding situations, phenomena and other entities they encounter - if that's what is meant by "operative paradigm". I can also see that the more closely that internal model accords with objective reality, the more effectively that organism is likely to function.(ie degree of subjectivity or "bias" ) — Benj96
I don't quite follow predictive value. In some situations, accurate prediction is the path to survival, which would give accuracy - and alignment with objective reality - a very high value. But there are also situation in the social life of highly complex, imaginative animals, where some kinds of bias, some emotional factor or even illusion would serve their interest better. (Pascal seemed to think so, anyway.)Proof of such a case is in predictive value — Benj96
For one, psychopathology or psychiatric illness would likely be the result of disordered mental paradigm. A failing to correctly place associations and relationships into logical (true or "realistic" ) order - likely due to previous trauma the consequent irrational emotional influence on subsequent beliefs and finally the paradigm they create. And therefore delusions (untruths) prevail. — Benj96
It would also mean that these could be "cured" with re-education, or rational psychotherapy. Reformulation of one's perception of reality. — Benj96
Very little. There are already many other therapies in the field.What would this mean for the current pharmaceutical approach to psychiatric illness? — Benj96
1). Let's assume that reality is ordered - consistent. Governed by laws and constants. (objective).
2). Lets also assume that the mind can perceive reality, receive data or input from it and store that data. — Benj96
Then, we could say that the degree of awareness or logic vs delusion of an given individual = the degree in which their minds internal relationships and associations or paradigm parallels/falls into alignment with that of external reality.
Proof of such a case is in predictive value - such an individual would be expected to have immense foresight (prediction) ability, as well as memory (accurate recall) , as well as explanatory power (their logic paralleling the innate logic of an objective reality). — Benj96
'the business of philosophy' is primarily to reflectively discipline the human mind with study, dialectical engagement and praxis in order to gradually unlearn the maladaptive habit of 'denying the human mind's inherent disorder' while learning to be antifragile because of this fact. — 180 Proof
(A Christian philosophical view would be that this natural order is instituted by God, and the appropriate response is that of obedience to divine commandments, which I will leave aside in favour of philosophical analysis. However it should be understood as part of the background of this question as modern culture has been shaped by rejection of that view - it defines what not to believe for a lot of people.) — Wayfarer
No. More so: anicca-anatta.Would you consider the possibility that this 'inherent disorder' is what is designated by 'avidya' (ignorance) in Buddhist and Hindu philosophy? — Wayfarer
Is that so? Well, in other related dharmic traditions, I understand that it is 'detachment from the psychological habit of permanence' (e.g. anicca-anatta) that facilitates 'liberation'.And that in those schools of traditional philosophy, it is precisely detachment from the imperatives of nature that provides the pathway to liberation (mokṣa, Nirvāṇa)?
You would know better than I, Wayfarer. I only raised 'Buddhism' as a speculative resemblance to, or psychological recognition of, to the fact of entropy – inherent disorder-ing – and the implications of denying, or ignoring, it (i.e. avidya).Whereas the identification with 'what decays and passes away' (in their terms) binds to the 'wheel of saṃsāra' (detachment from same being the aim of 'daily spiritual practice').
Whereas the identification with 'what decays and passes away' (in their terms) binds to the 'wheel of saṃsāra' (detachment from same being the aim of 'daily spiritual practice').
Is that so? Well, in other related dharmic traditions, I understand that it is 'detachment from the psychological habit of permanence' (e.g. anicca-anatta) that facilitates 'liberation'. — 180 Proof
he rejected both the views of "nihilism" and "eternalism" as constituting obstructions on the path to liberation. — Janus
It seems plausible to think that acceptance of another world above this one was mainly on account of it being the authoritative dogma, as well as being motivated by fear of death and wishful thinking that there might be a world more perfect than this one. — Janus
Are you asking about (a) Buddhist tradition or my use of it as a metaphor from outside of the scientific worldview (re: entropy)? If the latter, consider my post again, especially the second paragraph:To what end, though? — Wayfarer
That's quite uncharitable ... in light of what I wrote (also follow the embedded link):All you're saying wisdom consists of is resigning yourself to the inevitable natural fact of death and decay, isn't it?
is what I am "saying wisdom consists of".... striving to reduce foolery (& stupidity) seeks to align expectations with reality as an adaptive habit ... — 180 Proof
This striving to reduce foolery (& stupidity) seeks to align expectations with reality as an adaptive habit, or, to use P. Hadot's phrase, as a daily spiritual practice. — 180 Proof
Just the opposite – what in the opening sentence of my last post isn't clear ...Are you saying that these are examples of the 'ruses or delusions' by which humans deny their own inevitable decay? — Wayfarer
... my use of [Buddhist ideas] as a metaphor from outside of the scientific worldview (re: entropy)? — 180 Proof
Eternalism is the belief that through the appropriate rituals and practices, one can return forever in favourable states of birth (including heaven) rather than seeking emancipation from the whole cycle of re-birth. — Wayfarer
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