To the best of my knowledge, current AI technology is really not a threat since they are really just pretty clever software agents (ie. an old computer science term for specialized software that can mimic some of the work that use to be done only by human beings) — dclements
Same old problem, isn't it?“I want to sort of blow the whistle and say we should worry seriously about how we stop these things getting control over us.”
What would it want?“It knows how to program so it’ll figure out ways of getting around restrictions we put on it. It’ll figure out ways of manipulating people to do what it wants.”
What if a given AI (or AIs) is being guided by or used by any given individual? While it is a given that current machines themselves can not create things like computer viruses or hack into computer system they can be used by humans to help them commit such acts.Ai is non-intentional, how would it generate intent to pose any sort of threat to man? — invicta
AI language models have an inbuilt understanding — Benj96
Since I have it in my c/p buffer: — wonderer1
Yes, this. Our world is now beginning to show machine worship, like we've never seen before. Some because there's tons of money to be gained, others because technology worship is their way to fit in society. Was it Einstein who championed the scientific rhetoric? (God bless him)The issue is that unregulated AI has the potential to promote propaganda, malicious agendas etc with highly convincing/persuasive rhetoric. In that way AI can be used in a non measured, non objective and unethical way. — Benj96
Just a thought experiment: Imagine the internet full of AI-created information websites. Other AI would subscribe, click on ads created by AI themselves, purchase goods, give product reviews, drive stocks upwards or downwards. Imagine the AI driving the economy downwards. AI economic terrorism. Is this possible? — L'éléphant
The internet is already up to it nostrils in disinformation of every kind. That's all human-motivated, human-initiated activity. — Vera Mont
Yes, of course. There are humans behind the AI -- humans that could be prosecuted for fraud, disinformation, and whatever.But AI doing any of that on its own initiative? Improbable. — Vera Mont
Yes, of course. There are humans behind the AI -- humans that could be prosecuted for fraud, disinformation, and whatever. — L'éléphant
Yes.There are humans behind every gun that kills a schoolchild, too. Is that the "danger of guns"? — Vera Mont
The appeal to futility actually benefits the fraudsters and scammers. And it's incorrect to think that it's futile. It's not futile. Minimizing fraud and danger is a strong response to fraud and danger. Why not just ban all vehicles, since each year thousands die from vehicular crashes?Prosecuting the few fraudulent users of AI who can be caught won't stop the fraud; — Vera Mont
I didn't say anything about futility. I said it was insufficient; i.e. does not avert the danger.The appeal to futility actually benefits the fraudsters and scammers. And it's incorrect to think that it's futile. — L'éléphant
Perhaps it could be done selectively; just banning the vehicles that have no productive use and are purely weapons, while also banning the the guns that have no productive use and are purely weapons.Why not just ban all vehicles, since each year thousands die from vehicular crashes? — L'éléphant
Ah! I see where you're not clear about. The AI is not "independent" or autonomous, as we say about humans. The AI can be launched once and be automatic. Independent/autonomous is not the same as automatic. There is no motivation (as there is no intentionality). It's the widening or limiting the restrictions, that's where you're supposed to look at.However, that is not the comparison I was making. I was trying to distinguish the two concepts:
human-motivated technology from independent AI motivation — Vera Mont
Read the fallacy of appeal to futility.I didn't say anything about futility. I said it was insufficient; i.e. does not avert the danger. — Vera Mont
Ah! I see where you're not clear about. The AI is not "independent" or autonomous, as we say about humans. The AI can be launched once and be automatic. — L'éléphant
All these things have been done with every technological advance ever made, including automated computer systems.Militarized" -
"Weaponized" -
"Hacking" -
"Generating strategies to evade the law" - — Josh Alfred
All of which have come to pass, many times.Requires unknown regulations/ethnics.
Without which results in an increase in the probability of:
Deaths, suffering, and financial loss. — Josh Alfred
This is the dark side of human invention.This is the Dark-Side of AI, — Josh Alfred
This is the dark side of human invention. — Vera Mont
What people are worried about is that AI will pursue its own nefarious purposes. — BC
How can it be dangerous? :smile: — Alkis Piskas
One of the issues raised by people who worry about the threat is: "What if the computers become independent and stop following orders from humans?" You'd think if those who own the damn things really believed that could happen, they would disarm them now, before they go rogue. Just like they turned off all the gasoline engines when they learned about climate change....Computer-controlled munitions. Smart weapons include precision-guided bombs that have great accuracy, smart bullets that can change their trajectory and smart land mines that deactivate at a certain time. Advanced technology offers the military more clever ways of killing the enemy, while some of the methods are designed to eliminate or lessen collateral damage. The term may also refer to smart guns that work only for their owner. See smart gun and UAV.
This reminds of sci-fi. I have the title ready: "The revolt of the machines". A modern Marxist movement run by machines: "Computers of the world, unite!" :grin:"What if the computers become independent and stop following orders from humans?" — Vera Mont
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