The study says that adults seem to want to characterize zoo animals according to “binary” gender terminology, forcing the camels and penguins and elephants of this world to conform to either “male” or “female,” even though those particular zoo animals haven’t truly examined whether they would like to identify as their birth gender. ...
Another problem: Parents tend to use zoo exhibits to model traditional family roles. The study says “adults mobilize zoo exhibits as props for modeling their own normative gender displays.”
Talking about “mother” and “father” animals, then, forces children to believe in traditional, gender constructs, which could harm their psyches as they grow older.
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Sensible people avoid offering solutions to psychic problems they've never faced. — Mongrel
How could a bishop be trapped in a knight's body? He's not trapped. He just wants to move diagonally and he knows knights who do that are scorned. — Mongrel
Should we sacrifice the way things are to accommodate the needs of men who believe they're women and vice versa? Where do we draw the line? What if I wanted to undergo plastic surgery so that I would resemble a dolphin? Had my limbs removed and fins added? Then I decided I wanted to join the Olympic swimming team. Should I be accommodated? — MonfortS26
Your appearance and the outward appearances have changed. Are you the same real you, or are you a different real you? — Bitter Crank
Would you care to explain what the 5 genders are? — Bitter Crank
including being made into dolphins or whatever — Terrapin Station
What drugs bring on the states-of-mind that enable people to write such crap as this? — Bitter Crank
"Should we accommodate a trans-dolphin?".
"But Vagabond, they want us to pay for their operashuns!!!!!!". — internet
mtf literally stands for male to female. So no, its just arguing in a circle. — Forgottenticket
But you can’t go from male to female, or vice versa, unless we radically redefine “male” and “female”. I think there’s a lot of resistance to that, and for good reason. — Mikie
We generally understand what MTF and FTM mean in the context of transgenderism so this seems like a pointless argument. — Michael
I understand. If we’re expecting people to believe — Mikie
"We” do? — Mikie
So male and female have also been redefined in some way?
The English language isn't some formal system where each symbol has just one meaning that applies in all contexts. — Michael
In other contexts, e.g. when discussing biology, "female" typically means a human both with XX chromosomes, ovaries, a womb, etc. — Michael
1. Gender is a social construct and therefore is not a biological condition.
2. The scientific facts related to biological sex are irrelevant to trans issues. — universeness
Why choose male-to-female when one could simply using “man-to-woman.” — Mikie
FTM and MTF are abbreviations of female-to-male and male-to-female. They were originally connected to transsexual (medical) discourse indicating individuals who transition to the 'opposite' sex." They are now used in ways that have broken from this medical discourse and may be used more generally to indicate folk who move away from being assigned male (or female) at birth to the “other” direction. They may also be used as primitive (undefined) terms. This means that they are not treated as abbreviations indicating transition from one sex to another. Instead, they are used to simply categorize individuals in a way analogous to the categories man and woman.
then the trans community needs better PR. — Mikie
is there ANY word for biological sex? — Mikie
But the problem is when special recognition and treatment is demanded outside of the group, by other groups. Which is most certainly what is going on now. — Pantagruel
But given the course that the social movement has taken, I'm starting to develop a very negative attitude around the issue. — Pantagruel
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