Just pointing out that there are things that you do not doubt. — Banno
Sure, ask folk to show why they take something to be true. — Banno
how they arrived at that conclusion.I feel that somethings are undeniably true — Andrew4Handel
It goes both ways. — Banno
Because you seem'd so certain in your doubt... — Banno
So we agree that there are certainties, that some things are indubitable — Banno
I think it is fair to say anything in direct conscious attention is being ‘questioned’ to some degree. — I like sushi
Are you happy to doubt that you are reading this? — Banno
I made a thread about skepticism and said that we cannot coherently deny that language transmits meaning because by understanding this sentence you have proven that language transmits meaning. — Andrew4Handel
I made a thread about skepticism and said that we cannot coherently deny that language transmits meaning because by understanding this sentence you have proven that language transmits meaning.
I then challenged the justification for a lot of skepticism. Extreme brain in a vat skepticism has no evidence or warrant for it and does not justify building a world view around it.
I feel that somethings are undeniably true and preserving the truth is valuable and that we rely on truths to negotiate life and I see no value in a kind of "anything goes interpretive relativism" outside of genuinely ambiguous things that have proven good grounds to dispute. — Andrew4Handel
I'm "questioning" the floor of this room.. — Banno
This is a very good point and I basically agree. I would fully agree if we could talk about absolute truth, whether it exists or not. And the word "undeniably", refers to such a truth, as do the words "indisputably", "unquestionably", etc. Esp. in philosophy, there are always different views about things. There's no one out there to tell what the absolute truth is. Also, some truths cannot be even described or expressed. They are what we call ineffable truths. In fact, there are times that I talk about something that I know well, it is --actually, seems-- very obvious, etc. and I want to use the word "indisputably", but I hold myself back. Because, 1) who am I to tell and 2) there can always be a different viewpoint about it.I feel that somethings are undeniably true and preserving the truth is valuable and that we rely on truths to negotiate life and I see no value in a kind of "anything goes interpretive relativism" outside of genuinely ambiguous things that have proven good grounds to dispute. — Andrew4Handel
"A shape that has three sides is a triangle", and "any shape with three sides is a triangle" — Judaka
I don't seem to have a particular overriding goal in my life but if I had to choose it would be the desire to know the truth and understand the reality I have been thrown in. — Andrew4Handel
All of the truth about everything, or just some particular truths about some particular things? — Vera Mont
I think that no after life has problematic implications for life and meaning and that moral nihilism is a negative conclusion but could be true.
It could be decided our behavior is highly unethical such as failure to help the poor and disadvantaged and global inequality. I think creating new children is ethically problematic. — Andrew4Handel
Personally, I think not having a belief in an afterlife makes many of us more concerned about the only life we do have — Tom Storm
But you can compare it to Pascal's wager and whether there is anything to lose by believing or not believing in God. — Andrew4Handel
One issue about the truth is what to do after you have discovered it. How would you react if there was proven to be an afterlife? And how should we react if we could prove there was no afterlife and why? — Andrew4Handel
I think that if we don't know something we should live as if we don't know it. — Andrew4Handel
Because we don’t attend to the obvious unless there is a reason to. — I like sushi
Isn't living like you don't know functionally no different than living like you don't believe? — Tom Storm
I don't think so. Imagine if someone is suicidal for mental health reasons. I would want to give them a reason to live. They may have formed the belief that life is pointless and meaningless. False beliefs can motivate people do harmful things and reach bad conclusions. — Andrew4Handel
What is consciousness? What is the right thing to do? Is society fair? Is life meaningful or meaningless? Who is telling the truth and what beliefs are we taking for granted. — Andrew4Handel
You seem to think you made a point. You didn't. — Banno
It wasn't my first encounter with gravity. Having extensive experience of gravity, I formed a high degree of confidence on the probability of its continued operation; thus it has become one of those things takes for granted and doesn't pay attention to unless there is some particular reason - e.g, being invited to the space station.So even ↪Vera Mont
, venturing tentatively onto a previously unexplored floor for fear of falling through, holds gravity indubitable. — Banno
Only one asaik : that a statement regarding the name of a dog is equivalent to restating the definition of a geometric shape.You've refuted a lot of claims that I didn't make and I can't see how anything you said is related to my argument. — Judaka
But that's all right; it was yours to move."A shape that has three sides is a triangle", and "any shape with three sides is a triangle", aren't much different from giving your dog the name "Mark" and insisting that it is true that your dog's name is Mark. — Judaka
I assume you don't believe in in the deity Ahura Mazda - like any gods, he can't be disprove, but I am assuming you live as though he doesn't exist. That's my point. — Tom Storm
the idea is that the claim is "indisputable" — Judaka
The names of things are the names of things. True by the nature and function or language.these statements are true by convention — Judaka
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