It has recently been shown, rather convincingly [for me, at least,] that we cannot distinguish between living in a simulation and living in a 'real' universe. — Torus34
That brings into question whether we can truly know anything at all. — Torus34
That brings into question whether we can truly know anything at all.
Comments? — Torus34
That brings into question whether we can truly know anything at all. — Torus34
The "logic" may be valid but its soundness is dubious at best. An infinity of such notions "cannot be logically ruled out", but so what? Life is short, we need to sort out which of relatively few ideas are worthy of our limited time and energy to seriously consider. By all means, as I'm not aware of any nontrivial^^ grounds, please cite some for bothering to make an effort to think through "the simulation hypothesis". :chin:The problem isn't whether it's a probable possibility but, rather, that it cannot be logically ruled out. — Torus34
The "logic" may be valid but its soundness is dubious at best. An infinity of such notions "cannot be logically ruled out", but so what? Life is short, we need to sort out which relative few ideas are worthy of our limited time and energy to seriously consider. — 180 Proof
It has recently been shown, rather convincingly [for me, at least,] that we cannot distinguish between living in a simulation and living in a 'real' universe.
That brings into question whether we can truly know anything at all.
Comments? — Torus34
It has recently been shown, rather convincingly [for me, at least,] that we cannot distinguish between living in a simulation and living in a 'real' universe. — Torus34
At least in h. sapiens it does.Consciousness requires nerve impulses??? — RogueAI
Non sequitur.No possibility of machine consciousness?
For starters, what difference would such a "possibility" make to us ontologically, existentially or pragmatically?No possibility that this is a simulation?
At least in h. sapiens it does. — 180 Proof
Not quite true (e.g. vide T. Metzinger), but even if you're right, philosophy has only folk fantasy (i.e. folk psychology), not even an "idea". — 180 Proof
We neither live in a simulation nor a ‘real’ universe, if ‘real’ here means an environment unaffected in its meaning by linguistic and material interactions among humans and between humans and that world. We co-construct the sense of the real through social interaction as well as via individual perspectival practices. The real is enacted, not passively observed. — Joshs
How do nerve impulses create conscious experiences? — RogueAI
No possibility of machine consciousness? — RogueAI
No possibility that this is a simulation? — RogueAI
depends on whether it's a computer simulation (yes, it's off/on switches)from flipping enough light switches on and off in some pattern? — RogueAI
If you knew for certain you were in a simulation, wouldn't you want to try and get in touch with the simulation creator? — RogueAI
How does the information get "turned into an experience"? — RogueAI
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